I_Am_Second wrote:
People that are negative about things like this, tend to just be not very happy people. They have to find the bad in everything.
They need to meet Jesus! 
I've stopped posting stats on TT (Formerly Complaint about my comments on TT)
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That sounds like a threat.
tonightatsix wrote:
I_Am_Second wrote:
People that are negative about things like this, tend to just be not very happy people. They have to find the bad in everything.
They need to meet Jesus!
The world would be a better place...
nobodyreally wrote:
tonightatsix wrote:
So Kaynight must have said something that falls into one of these categories. lol!!
Impossible!
I've know him for quite a while now. Seen thousands of his posts. He doesn't fall into any of these 7 categories.
Maybe the 3rd a little, but that's totally subjective. I see his comments as an enrichment to the forums, since he tends to point out all the bs that's going on in here using only a few words.
I would like to ask you to unblock him. You can always block him again later on.
OK. Since you vouched for him so vehemently nobodyreally, I will unblock him. I really hope that I do not get any one of those 7 categories hurled my way.
There. I did it :)
hey thats ironic i think ive seen ur username on some of the problems
bigpoison wrote:
That sounds like a threat.
To be honest, I find your handle name scary and that makes me feel uncomfortable. And I cannot talk to a person who makes me feel scared and uncomfortable.
I_Am_Second wrote:
tonightatsix wrote:
They need to meet Jesus!
The world would be a better place...
Amen :)
"In fact, I never thought that anyone was looking at my comments. I feel like a person, who have a tendency to mumble to herself and someone has come upto me and said "Hey I don't like what you're mumbling." My response to that is "What? I didn't even know that anyone was listening" much less that they hated what I was mumbling."
Well to be fair, every internet comment here is "audible." :)
No but I get what you're saying. I think you explained it well.
Elubas wrote:
Well to be fair, every internet comment here is "audible." :)
No but I get what you're saying. I think you explained it well.
I appreciate that you're directing me to look at all aspects of this issue, and that you try to have a balanced view on things yourself, Elubas :)
"and no I am not going to post my failed attempts because I don't feel like it :) I hope that's OK. "
See I didn't know that. It's ok, but it makes it harder for me to believe the reasons you give for why you do what you do. The way you described it you made it seem like your score was irrelevant, but only posting successes seems like it might contradict that.
I could be misunderstanding, though, and I apologize if I am.
Sred wrote:
Scottrf wrote:
'There are other people doing it so it's harmless' I'm not sure is a motto which extrapolates well.
http://www.richmond-philosophy.net/rjp/back_issues/rjp1_hooker.pdf
The fact is on sites where commenters have some respect for other users, the comments are good and helpful. You don't, OK, but why make a thread asking for input?
Kant sprang to my mind also when I read the OP.
I apologize profusely for a horrible pun, I can't understand Kant. But I am glad you guys, sred and Sott have each other to talk about Kant! lol
Anyway, I used to have long sessions on TT and I do know that feeling of finding a familiar member in your rating group often posting comments :) Indeed I posted a ton of comments myself, and I usually gave some random thought I was having solved or not, but indeed sometimes I would say something like "yay!" so I know what it's like to have a satisfying TT moment.
I would never make "easy" comments though (except maybe at the very beginning, not sure) -- I just find those condescending.
Elubas wrote:
"and no I am not going to post my failed attempts because I don't feel like it :) I hope that's OK. "
See I didn't know that. It's ok, but it makes it harder for me to believe the reasons you give for why you do what you do. The way you described it you made it seem like your score was irrelevant, but only posting successes seems like it might contradict that.
I could be misunderstanding, though, and I apologize if I am.
Elubas, I don't even post my passing percentage and I don't post my problem rating. I just post (+1) (+3), and it is quite discreet in the corner. Is that so bragging???? How can I be bragging about anything when my rating is not stellar? I just put that ((+1), (+3) etc) there so that I know I passed it.
And Is it so strange that one doesn't like to look at one's record of failure? I think that is natural.
You know I take great joy in doing the TT puzzles. The biggest reason I decided to become a paying member is to have that unlimited access to TT. When I started, I thought I will never break the 1300 barrier but I did, and I got almost to 1400 and I thought I would never break that. But I did and so on and so forth, And now I am doing 1700+ at times and I can't believe it. I know what I have done is peanuts to a lot of you, but it means a lot to me and leaving the stats to me embodies that journey I took.
When I see a person going "100%!" at 1200 rating puzzle, OK I admit that I am partly annoyed but I also remember how exhilarated I felt taking those steps. So I try to put people's comments in that context. Have I explained myself enough, Elubas? :)
But you say you leave them to remind yourself whether you passed or failed.
This can't be the case if you don't post fails. You wont know if you've attempted 5 times but passed only once. You wont know if you have never done the puzzle before or you simply failed.
Call it what it is. It's vanity.
"Is that so bragging???? How can I be bragging about anything when my rating is not stellar?"
By that logic, how can anyone who is not 2700 FIDE brag? Indeed on one hand, we always know there is someone much, much better than us. Yet I think psychologically, we like to block those things out when we have a good moment, and forget our shortcomings. Perhaps we focus on how many people we're better than for that moment, rather than who is better than us. I don't think it's an ideal way to look at things because it turns chess into a hierarchy; a somewhat arbitrary way to compare oneself to a person. Still everyone has those temptations; I try to hold them back though.
"And Is it so strange that one doesn't like to look at one's record of failure? I think that is natural."
It's not just that though, since you are also insisting other people dare not see your failures. Nobody is perfect though, of course.
"I know what I have done is peanuts to a lot of you, but it means a lot to me and leaving the stats to me embodies that journey I took."
And Carlsen is not impressed at anything I have done :) And I get that. I just try to appreciate what I have achieved, that I am better than a past me. I will never be better than everyone, but I can always be better than a past me. But that process embodies failures just as much as successes.
And I don't want you to get the impression that you have to explain yourself to me. I'm no authority. But as you said discussion is good. We learn more about each other's ideas. I certainly like that I learned about yours :)
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tonightatsix wrote:
nobodyreally wrote:
tonightatsix wrote:
So Kaynight must have said something that falls into one of these categories. lol!!
Impossible!
I've know him for quite a while now. Seen thousands of his posts. He doesn't fall into any of these 7 categories.
Maybe the 3rd a little, but that's totally subjective. I see his comments as an enrichment to the forums, since he tends to point out all the bs that's going on in here using only a few words.
I would like to ask you to unblock him. You can always block him again later on.
OK. Since you vouched for him so vehemently nobodyreally, I will unblock him. I really hope that I do not get any one of those 7 categories hurled my way.
There. I did it :)
Thank you. Just hope I don't regret it!
Scottrf wrote:
Of course I can't stop you. I just find the comments selfish. You don't care if it impacts on the learning of others and ruins the comments section.
My thoughts more or less.
Sometimes there are some interesting discussion going on in the TT comments, when the line is unclear or stuff like that. But because of people like you (who may have noble motivations such as stats about the rating history of the problem) it gets drowned by the flow of statistics. (and I am not even mentioning the "got it, so easy" comments that add zero value)
For that reason, I check on new TT comments less often if ever.
This being said, I will kindly ask you to refrain from such posting in the future, but most likely you won't rally to my reasons and there is not much I can do about it.
Scottrf wrote:
Call it what it is. It's vanity.
Scott, there are people like you who think that if you put something out there, the only motivation must be is to brag and be vain. That is like saying that an artist is vain when he makes a painting, or a writer is vain because she published a book, because eveything one produces must be to show off to someoneelse and be vain.....
Has it ever occurred to you that some people do what they do because they just like to do it? i.e. I left the stats because I like to do that.
I don't think that all record keeping is for vanity. But you're gonna think what you're gonna think. So I acknowledge that you think I am vain.
This reminds me of an incident at my church. There was a gingerbread house making contest for the Sunday school kids. My son made a gingerbread house and he is clumsy so the output was not very good and naturally he did not win the contest, and to my great surprise, he started crying bitterly because he didn't win. I completely failed to understand that sentiment. I mean I would understand his crying if he was close to winning, but he was not even in the contention. If I were in his shoes, I would be like "Oh, I didn't win because my gingerbread house was not so good" and I would get over it and go play something else. But not my son. He was inconsolable and after a while I got annoyed with him. And some other boy saw that I was getting impatient and gave me a real dirty look. Then it dawned on me, that I could not understand my son because such trait was so foreign to my personality. But another boy could empathize with my son because he knew exactly how my son felt. To them, everything is a competition, everything is a challenge to prove his self worth, everything is for show, everything determines hierarchy, and he failed so he was crying.
I guess I do care where I stand in a crowd to a certain degree, but the thought is not at the forefront of my mindset as it seems to be with.....(I dare say) men. I do things mostly because I like to do them. I leave the stats because I like to do so, I don't record the failure because I don't feel like doing that.
I know when I am being vain. Before I am stepping out the door, I try to make myself presentable. I guess I am being vain then for sure. I admit that.
optimal solution
Optimal for whom? Optimal for you?
Are you not hearing that some people are commenting that they like the stats? The comments have different meaning to different people. When I see a familiar person's comment, I think "Oh good :) This person has been here. Hard at work I see :)" whereas you think "This person is having a ego trip again. This is junk and only glimpse of happiness in their entire existence" There are people who think like you and there are people who think like me, and what is optimal for you may not be optimal for me.
People that are negative about things like this, tend to just be not very happy people. They have to find the bad in everything.