I've stopped posting stats on TT (Formerly Complaint about my comments on TT)

Haha, not really, I'm just spicing things up :)

"If I said to any of you that what you write is like "ugly graffit," I am sure all of you would take offense to that."

Depends on how much you care about what others say. I am not dying to be called "stupid" but if someone does so without any basis, it won't bother me because it's just not true :) Although I often do make a slight moral judgment on them so that at least they heard it from somebody.

Nothing against you nobodyreally, but "ugly graffiti" is a pretty poor choice of words, not really required to make the point. For example, you could just call it "distracting graffiti."

burnt to a crisp.

no coming back from that one. 

Thank you, Elubas :)  I agree that it is best to avoid words that can be misconstrued.    

As for spicing things up, haha...  As a woman, I feel that I need to be extra careful about what I say here because most of you are men, and whatever I said would be something that a woman said.  I think it would sound quite different when a man calls another man "not clever ( or stupid) " and when a woman calls a man "not clever", not that I would say such a thing ordinarily.  (Edit:  I chose the term "not clever" in connection to what Elubas had just said in #128 "not dying to be called stupid" in his comment about poor choice of words.  I meant that it would be very poor choice of words in deed if I said something like that.)

I do not want to offend and I want to be respectful, and I want to get along :)  I love chess and I think it's wonderful that you all play chess :)   

edit:  I harbor no ill feeling toward nobodyreally.  He said that he didn't mean it that way and that is enough for me :)

oh dear!!  lol 

Oh right because men are supposed to be all manly and everything and rule the world or something. You're probably right about a fair amount of men (although it's their fault they're like that, not anyone else's) but for me everyone is an individual. It makes no difference, to me, whether I lose to a man or a woman. Either way, the same thing is true: I had an opponent who played better than me. That's all there is to it: give them credit and move on.

I respect that :) 

Indeed, that's why he hasn't come back

Not easy to be encouraged or empowered when you have done 0 tactics :D

lol! 

True, distracting or even better unnecessary would have been a better word to use.

But in my mind I was picturing the persons spraying their stupid tags on the walls of beautiful buidings versus the likes of Banksy (love what he does).

However, I stand by the point I was making.

ps. Copy/pasting is NOT a comment. And we are talking about the comment section, right?

Because OP censorship is not retroactive.

Since you blocked someone for not liking what he posts, this will probably be my last post in the thread, so:

"I do something because I like to, no matter what the others think of it" is maybe not vanity, but certainly not the mark of a noble character.

Again, the best I can do from my side is not reading the TT comments anymore, because I cannot force you to stop posting such crap. But please understand that besides law there is politeness, and it is not because you can and want to do something that it is the right thing to do.

[EDIT: missed the "I am a woman" bit, but I can assure you that my angry tone would have been the same no matter who I am addressing on that point]

Thank you for unblocking me! I may now further contribute to the discussion should I now so wish.

Good morning:)

Nobodyreally, so now you are associating me with "stupid tags," and a girl with a baseball bat behind her back?? lol  Really?  I think I have only been cordial toward you. 

And irontiger, you are calling my posts "crap" and you talk about impoliteness?  I would respond to you out of real politeness one last time. 

Impolite?  Impolite according to whom?  This site is open to the whole wide world and to chess players of all levels.  Not all of us are able to leave paragraphs and paragraphs of deep analysis, not all of us speak English, but we are here, doing TT.  And we are going to utilize it the way that is useful for us.  Do I have to repeat one more time that some people don't find the stats impolite?  IMO, the discomfort you feel in seeing these stats do not exceed the average amount of discomfort you must bear in any kind of community as big as this.  And now, I would like to say that I would not be responding to harsh, out of line words any more. 

Going back to the issue at hand, last night I tried writing my thoughts in the TT comments section.   See?  I listen to you guys and I try to compromise :)  So the amount of time it took me to write one comment, I think I could have done 10 more puzzles.  And what I wrote wasn't all that deep obviously.  One puzzle was where it was the pawn endgame situation, where the kings (instead heading directly next to the pawns) have to prance around each other first to do the king dance to get to the critical square.  So I wrote that down, and I thought "well I am taking so much time writing something unmemorable/obvious.  Is this worth it for me?" 

So I decided that I am not going to leave anything if it is the first page.  Nobody bothers to read the second page, right?   How's that?  Good?  Satisfied?  lol  I'm not gonna compromise more than this, and I am not going to budge.  Unfortunately, you are gonna see a lot of me on the first pages for a while because there have been a whole batch of new puzzles recently and I have been on the first page a lot.  Please excuse me for that. 

So no more comments (stats) on the first page for tonightatsix :) 

Repac, when I blocked you it was because you initially posted the picture without the explanation and I didn't understand what you were getting at and thought that you were trying to harrass me.  But thanks to your explanation I got your message, and you have a valid point (edit:  although recently, the very thing you drew happened for real. There were four of us doing exactly that: putting in stats after stats.  And I sincerely thought it was very amusing and interesting to look at the changing numbers.)  Anyway, I apologize for misunderstanging you. I hope my compromise is tolerable for you, too :)

You do know that the most recent comments appear on the first page regardless of how many pages there are, right?

No.  It doesn't on TT -  that is something unique about TT comments.  But let me check right now. 

I checked.  Oldest comment first. 

And now that I am looking at it, only about four comments can get on the first page.  In that case, I may even skip the second page :)  OK,  if anyone is complaining to me when I am on the third page, then they have a problem I cannot help.  

Well, I'll be damned.  Shows what I know.

:)  And you are not as menacing as your handle name :)

I have not been able to do much studying (chess), play chess or do TT for the past few days due to responding to this thread.  So I would like to get back to those now.  I hope we are all friends still, even the ones who hate the stats! lol  Thank you for all your responses :)   

"So the amount of time it took me to write one comment, I think I could have done 10 more puzzles."

Are you sure you're not exaggerating here?

I think the view of irontiger and scottrf might be (although I'm not sure) that they would rather you not post a comment if you don't think it would contribute. Don't post a comment just for the sake of posting one. Perhaps give a line you were calculating and say what you saw/didn't see in that line, if, and perhaps only if, there was something interesting about it.

Even if it was a miscalculation, it could still be interesting, and might provide help to solvers who were wondering why their move didn't work. They could figure it out themselves, but having a comment for it is convenient. Players of all levels can do this sort of thing -- even really obvious variations do clarify things.

Still, I think there are a variety of comments people can make on TT, just as there are a variety of comments people make about things in general. I don't have a problem with a comment like "I really liked this attack" -- it's not an instructive statement, but you are talking about the tactic after all -- different people have their own reactions towards things -- presumably that's largely why we make comments about anything.

I'm not committing to any particular answer to your original question, but I think these things I have said are worth pointing out anyway and showcase the different perspectives one can have to TT comments.