computer whipped, calls it a stalemate

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r_nati wrote:

...The way I understand it, a stalemate is when either side does not have a legal move..."

This is a slight misunderstanding. In reality, it doesn't matter that *you* have a legal move, because it's not your turn. It matters only that, when you last moved, you didn't leave any legal move for your *opponent*. I hope this helps.

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Ok. Thank you all for replying.

I really thought it was a biased computer algorithm, or the likes there of. But, now I understand that was not the case. And is something I need to learn to avoid.

Good luck all and cheers!

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I see it now. (sorry, I'm slow)  That is tricky!  You all are right. I don't have the king check, but he doesn't have a move either. Stalemate! 

Adds another element to the game. And seems fair enough.

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r_nati wrote:

I see it now. (sorry, I'm slow)  That is tricky!  You all are right. I don't have the king check, but he doesn't have a move either. Stalemate! 

Adds another element to the game. And seems fair enough.

 

A good train of thought is to usually leave one or two extra squares to provide the opposing king with some space to avoid stalemate.

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You will stalemate a few times by accident then you will become more aware of it. Maybe even suckering your opponent into stalemating to avoid a loss
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a mate is only a checkmate if the king is in check. you cannot "pass" a move in chess, so when you have no legal moves, but you're not in check, it's a stalemate.

sometimes, you have pieces other than your king, but they can't move because they are either pinned to your king or there are no empty squares that they can move to.

i hope this helps.

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autobunny wrote:

Never play the computer. It cheats with engine assistance, and makes up rules like stalemate, en passant, castling etc

computers don't make up rules. while it may seem like bots say "draw by stalemate" to avoid losing the game, stalemate is a basic part of chess that is unavoidable.

en passant, castling, and pawn promotion are rules that simply make chess more fun, and they are indeed legal moves.

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ChessOfficial2016 wrote:

"Stalemate" is the same as "Draw".

this is a common misunderstanding. a stalemate is a type of draw when you don't have any legal moves. there are other types of draws, including repetition, 50-move rule, and agreement.

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KieferSmith wrote:
ChessOfficial2016 wrote:

"Stalemate" is the same as "Draw".

this is a common misunderstanding. a stalemate is a type of draw when you don't have any legal moves. there are other types of draws, including repetition, 50-move rule, and agreement.

That's like saying "dogs are animals" is a common misunderstanding because dogs are a type of animal.

Fking nonsense. Stalemates are draws. You (and a few others who posted similar) are going to confuse beginners by implying stalemates and draws are different.

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blairic wrote:
I want my wins, no matter how ugly they are.

I suppose that's a good way of putting it since you're wanting to go so far as to change the rules to get the win grin.png

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paper_llama wrote:
KieferSmith wrote:
ChessOfficial2016 wrote:

"Stalemate" is the same as "Draw".

this is a common misunderstanding. a stalemate is a type of draw when you don't have any legal moves. there are other types of draws, including repetition, 50-move rule, and agreement.

That's like saying "dogs are animals" is a common misunderstanding because dogs are a type of animal.

you don't understand. dogs are animals, but not all animals are dogs. stalemates are also draws, but not all draws are stalemate.

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KieferSmith wrote:
paper_llama wrote:
KieferSmith wrote:
ChessOfficial2016 wrote:

"Stalemate" is the same as "Draw".

this is a common misunderstanding. a stalemate is a type of draw when you don't have any legal moves. there are other types of draws, including repetition, 50-move rule, and agreement.

That's like saying "dogs are animals" is a common misunderstanding because dogs are a type of animal.

you don't understand. dogs are animals, but not all animals are dogs. stalemates are also draws, but not all draws are stalemate.

"If you have a dog, then you have an animal" -> True
"If you have an animal, then you have a dog" -> Maybe, but could be false.

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"If you have a stalemate then you have a draw -> True, so no need to correct @ChessOfficial2016 like you did. A stalemate is a draw.

"If you have a draw, then you have a stalemate" -> Maybe, but could be false.

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no

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Let me clarify the difference between "stalemate" and "draw".

a stalemate is when the king is not in check, but there are no legal moves. a stalemate is indeed a draw, but not all draws are by stalemate. a draw could also be by repetition, 50-move rule, agreement, insufficient material, or timeout vs. insufficient material. "draw" is more broad than "stalemate". they are not the same. i often see people get insufficient material, and call it a stalemate. that is not correct.

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KieferSmith wrote:

Let me clarify the difference between "stalemate" and "draw".

a stalemate is when the king is not in check, but there are no legal moves. a stalemate is indeed a draw, but not all draws are by stalemate. a draw could also be by repetition, 50-move rule, agreement, insufficient material, or timeout vs. insufficient material. "draw" is more broad than "stalemate". they are not the same. i often see people get insufficient material, and call it a stalemate. that is not correct.

Yeah, I've seen kids use the word "stalemate" to mean draw. Like "how did your game end" and the other kid says "stalemate" (when it was king vs king).

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paper_llama wrote:
KieferSmith wrote:
ChessOfficial2016 wrote:

"Stalemate" is the same as "Draw".

this is a common misunderstanding. a stalemate is a type of draw when you don't have any legal moves. there are other types of draws, including repetition, 50-move rule, and agreement.

That's like saying "dogs are animals" is a common misunderstanding because dogs are a type of animal.

Fking nonsense. Stalemates are draws. You (and a few others who posted similar) are going to confuse beginners by implying stalemates and draws are different.

Instant block for being a dork

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Lagomorph wrote:
paper_llama wrote:
KieferSmith wrote:
ChessOfficial2016 wrote:

"Stalemate" is the same as "Draw".

this is a common misunderstanding. a stalemate is a type of draw when you don't have any legal moves. there are other types of draws, including repetition, 50-move rule, and agreement.

That's like saying "dogs are animals" is a common misunderstanding because dogs are a type of animal.

Fking nonsense. Stalemates are draws. You (and a few others who posted similar) are going to confuse beginners by implying stalemates and draws are different.

Instant block for being a dork

Blocking me or him? I guess I have to check to see if I can post in your topics.

Oh, you blocked me... but also I found you made a topic about eating babies... ok man, sure, I'm devastated to be blocked by you... lol.

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How to turn off stalemate

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Its not a rule it can actually b turned off so i can get back to my ugly win against dumb bot kids