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checkmateibeatu
That's like boasting that you play without "resorting" to taking one's queen. Ridiculous.
TheGrobe
Cystem_Phailure wrote:

Yeah, I always get a kick out of the people who boast that they play without "resorting" to castling, like it's an underhanded move that slipped through a rules loophole and should be shunned by dignified players.  You know those guys aren't going very far in their chess careers with that attitude.


Well I prefer classic rules and refuse to move my pawns forward two squares at a  time.  I find it downright offensive when my opponents don't do the same.

Cystem_Phailure

And what's with that thing that jumps over other pieces?  Scandalous, I say!

checkmateibeatu
You could say that with many many other rules.
whirlwind2011

I am offended whenever someone challenges me to a game or accepts a challenge from me. Does he actually have the gall to try to beat me? Tongue out

Zhane

There are many rules I find intresting. En Passent, Castling and my favourite one promotion.

All of them take time to perfect, however if you throw Conditional Moves in there as well, it makes my game 10x harder.

Cystem_Phailure
Zhane wrote:

 if you throw Conditional Moves in there as well, it makes my game 10x harder.


Only because, as you've demonstrated repeatedly, you don't have the slightest hint of how they really work.

Zhane
Cystem_Phailure wrote:
Zhane wrote:

 if you throw Conditional Moves in there as well, it makes my game 10x harder.


Only because, as you've demonstrated repeatedly, you don't have the slightest hint of how they really work.


 Believe it or not I have read what they are about and how they work, I just feel as if they were there to aggrivate the thinkers of chess sites.

Cystem_Phailure
Zhane wrote:
Cystem_Phailure wrote:
Zhane wrote:

 if you throw Conditional Moves in there as well, it makes my game 10x harder.


Only because, as you've demonstrated repeatedly, you don't have the slightest hint of how they really work.


 Believe it or not I have read what they are about and how they work, I just feel as if they were there to aggrivate the non-thinkers of chess sites.


Fixed that for you.

pocoloco-1

This seems kind of silly to me.  I feel like conditional moves are a kind of aggression or oneupsmanship.  Speeds up the game?  Then why aren't you playing a ten minute game, etc?  If I have 1 day or 3 days or 10 days to move, this is something you agreed to.  You presumably have other games to play.  Come back to this one when your opponent is ready.

whirlwind2011
Zhane wrote:
Cystem_Phailure wrote:
Zhane wrote:

 if you throw Conditional Moves in there as well, it makes my game 10x harder.


Only because, as you've demonstrated repeatedly, you don't have the slightest hint of how they really work.


 Believe it or not I have read what they are about and how they work, I just feel as if they were there to aggrivate the thinkers of chess sites.


Not so, because you, the player, still have the same exact time to think about your move (3 days, for example) as always. If your opponent uses his time efficiently, he does not encroach your thinking time.

trysts
Zhane wrote:


  I just feel as if they were there to aggrivate the thinkers of chess sites.


No, that's what the forum is forWink

whirlwind2011
pocoloco-1 wrote:

This seems kind of silly to me.  I feel like conditional moves are a kind of aggression or oneupsmanship.  Speeds up the game?  Then why aren't you playing a ten minute game, etc?  If I have 1 day or 3 days or 10 days to move, this is something you agreed to.  You presumably have other games to play.  Come back to this one when your opponent is ready.


Because a player may not want to play the whole game quickly. But if he knows exactly what he wants to play for two, five, or ten of the fifty moves, he should be able to make them quickly, efficiently, and automatically.

The statement "Come back to this one when your opponent is ready" is not a fitful argument. A player is never under an obligation to cater to his opponent. If my opponent is not ready, too bad. He has (at least) one entire day to think about his next move, after all.

Cystem_Phailure

You folks do realize, I hope, that just because a conditional move pops up doesn't mean you have to respond to it right then.  You can still go away from that game and take your usual 3 days or whatever the time period for the game is.

Cystem_Phailure

Also, using conditional moves is one way players can keep their average time per move value low, if that's of concern to them.  Some tournaments require a low value for entry.

Zhane
Cystem_Phailure wrote:

Also, using conditional moves is one way players can keep all their average time per move value low, if that's of concern to them.  Some tournaments require a low value for entry.


 Just thought I'd update you for a change.

I still think that chess dot com has made things harder for thinkers like myself, and quite a few others in this forum.

pocoloco-1

I think Phailure's argument is legitimate-I just really don't believe that's why most players use conditional moves.  I think for many, it's a childish "in your face" thing.

Cystem_Phailure

Oh come on-- the only thing "childish" is that some people could possibly interpret it that way.

trysts
Zhane wrote:

I still think that chess dot com has made things harder for thinkers like myself, and quite a few others in this forum.


http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_bCFLK6U9Vh4/SEn8acoYegI/AAAAAAAAAP0/Ek3JPnwiG2o/s320/the+thinker.JPG

Zhane

The bottom line is that I've read somewhere that they want conditional moves in Vote Chess, and if that happens then something is seriously wrong with the system.

The BIGGEST FAIL ON THIS SITE ARE CONDITIONAL MOVES.

 We all Know that CONDITIONAL MOVES KILLED A THINKER (like myself).