confusions from the book chess for tigers ????????

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I'm reading this book called chess for tiger's and it's basically a type of psyche out chess book and I didn't take it to seriously till I came across a chapter called "Looking in The Mirrior" which shows how to measure yourself in a table chart based off certain positions and I thought this to be very useful exccept some stuff I just don't get. For one it has something called late middlegame and I thought he was refereing to endgame postions but when I read further it alread had a category for tht so what does late middleg game positions consiste of ?? another thing is when it talks about tactical positions it only has 3 categories which is attacking the King and defending the king (what does defense have to do with tactics ?) and then the author say's WILD TACTICS what is he referring to ?? Please this would be very useful to me thanks.

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Late middlegame is where you have maybe three or four pieces to a side.

Tactics have just as much to do with defense as with attack.

Wild Tactics sounds like a term the author made up.

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Late middle game as in maybe one more minor or heavy piece swap makes it an endgame.  So things like prospective trades (resulting in the different possible endgames), pawns structure, and king position will be factors of concern.

People attack you with tactics so if you're defending you have to see all the tactics for a successful defense to work :)

Wild tactics?  I'm sure different levels of players would define this differently depending on how many patterns they know and their ability to calculate so this would be hard to rate yourself in IMO.

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But ivandh is some guy with a cat... I'm a bunch of flower petals or macaroni or some crap... you're the only tiger with a book about tigers so maybe you know better Tongue out

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waffllemaster wrote:

But ivandh is some guy with a cat... I'm a bunch of flower petals or macaroni or some crap... you're the only tiger with a book about tigers so maybe you know better


Not just some guy! An alcoholic.

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I thought it may be someone but I didn't recognize :)

An alcoholic... with a cat lol ok so Alekhine?

Wait did Alekhine even have a cat?  I have no idea why I associate a cat with Alekhine... but I do.  Anyway the drunk part is a sure sign ;)

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waffllemaster wrote:

But ivandh is some guy with a cat... I'm a bunch of flower petals or macaroni or some crap... you're the only tiger with a book about tigers so maybe you know better


still at teenage cub level tho lol. thanks guys everything except for the wild tactics thing makes since now. The author is IM Simon web so how would someone his level define wild tactics ?

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If "Chess for Tigers" is Charlie Sheen's chess book then, Wild Tactics probably involves "winning."

Although Charlie..."You keep using that word. I don't think it means what you think it means."

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chessmaster102 wrote:
waffllemaster wrote:

But ivandh is some guy with a cat... I'm a bunch of flower petals or macaroni or some crap... you're the only tiger with a book about tigers so maybe you know better


still at teenage cub level tho lol. thanks guys everything except for the wild tactics thing makes since now. The author is IM Simon web so how would someone his level define wild tactics ?


Maybe another way to say it, very tactical positions where it isn't clear which side has the initiative.  Should you take time out with one move to defend?  Or should you press your attack?  Either way if you're wrong it may cause you to lose the initiative and the game.

This is how I'd imagine it.

 

[edit]
Oh my other post disappeared or I edited it away or something.  I was saying maybe positions with mutual attacks after opposite castling where there isn't a clear attack vs defender status going on.

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waffllemaster wrote:

I thought it may be someone but I didn't recognize :)

An alcoholic... with a cat lol ok so Alekhine?

Wait did Alekhine even have a cat?  I have no idea why I associate a cat with Alekhine... but I do.  Anyway the drunk part is a sure sign ;)


It is Alekhine, and the only picture I've seen of him smiling. In all the others he looks like he's about ready to tear the photographer's arms off... he would be pretty terrifying to play against.

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ivandh wrote:
waffllemaster wrote:

I thought it may be someone but I didn't recognize :)

An alcoholic... with a cat lol ok so Alekhine?

Wait did Alekhine even have a cat?  I have no idea why I associate a cat with Alekhine... but I do.  Anyway the drunk part is a sure sign ;)


It is Alekhine, and the only picture I've seen of him smiling. In all the others he looks like he's about ready to tear the photographer's arms off... he would be pretty terrifying to play against.


And the caption read

"Clever photographer uses cat as live bait to catch a smile from the former world champion.  However, shortly after this picture was taken, the cat was devoured."

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ivandh wrote:
waffllemaster wrote:

I thought it may be someone but I didn't recognize :)

An alcoholic... with a cat lol ok so Alekhine?

Wait did Alekhine even have a cat?  I have no idea why I associate a cat with Alekhine... but I do.  Anyway the drunk part is a sure sign ;)


It is Alekhine, and the only picture I've seen of him smiling. In all the others he looks like he's about ready to tear the photographer's arms off... he would be pretty terrifying to play against.


 yeah cause he was a soviet and every one knows thier blood is nienty percent vodka

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The book also shows a category which say's middle game's without queens but wouldn't that be the endgame? and even if not what does this have to do with self reflesction on one's stregth and weaknesses.
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The endgame is when there are just a few pairs (or one pair) of pieces left.  So maybe rook and knight vs rook and bishop or queen vs queen, these are endgames.

I know some beginners don't like / like to play with queens on the board.  Not sure if strong players particularly care.  I suppose it's a roundabout way of asking how you would rate yourself in positions you're able to pursue a mating attack, and positions where you probably wont be able to make a mating attack.

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Wild tactics---Well I hope you know what wild sex is, anything and everything goes. There are no restraints, no boundaries. Thats wild tactics as well. Look at a typical Tal game, or an Alekhine game, a Kasparov game and you will see some wild and wooly tactics. Normally, you wouldn't see wild tactics in a Karpov game, or a Kramnik game, or a Petrosian game.

 

Some player actually play better chess when queens are off the board---they have records to prove it. So they take queens off as soon as they can.

 

Late middlegame-early endgame ---who cares what people call it as long as you know how to play it.

Alekhine had six cats---his favorite was a cat named chess.

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aha...

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I read that book. It was interesting.

But, it didn't really do it for me. So I wrote my own book.

Chess for Lions

Chapter 1 - 47 ways to eat your opponent.