I find it so funny that people judge things so intrinsic about people like their will to improve just by looking at their superficial responses and behaviour. Nepo handled it professionally, but that doesn't mean that he isn't gutted within that he messed it up 🤷🏻♀️
If you were watching the last games of the match online... you should notice that Magnus position was like a iron wall.
How could Nepo break through it?
I find it so funny that people judge things so intrinsic about people like their will to improve just by looking at their superficial responses and behaviour. Nepo handled it professionally, but that doesn't mean that he isn't gutted within that he messed it up 🤷🏻♀️
If you were watching the last games of the match online... you should notice that Magnus position was like a iron wall.
How could Nepo break through it?
Magnus needs to get a life lol. ALL he does is grind away at chess. He's 31 now! I don't know but I think these guys are way too old to spend that much time on this. It just looks silly seeing men with beards playing chess lol.
Yeah... me personally agree. )
But maybe they get some special pleasure from that.
I recall how Levy said in one his stream that he started to hate Chess.
Yet, take a look at Karpov after his devastating loss in the last game of Seville '87.
Roger Federer was always gracious in defeat, doesn't appear to have held him back any.
Amateur chess players telling us how top professionals should play the game.
Amateur psychologists telling us about human nature and how said professionals should behave/conduct their affairs.
All very amateurish indeed.
Amateur chess players telling us how top professionals should play the game.
Amateur psychologists telling us about human nature and how said professionals should behave/conduct their affairs.
All very amateurish indeed.
Name a single person at the top of their competitive profession who acted even remotely similar to Nepo after multiple crushing defeats.
Such a person doesn't exist.
Amateur chess players telling us how top professionals should play the game.
Amateur psychologists telling us about human nature and how said professionals should behave/conduct their affairs.
All very amateurish indeed.
Name a single person at the top of their competitive profession who acted even remotely similar to Nepo after multiple crushing defeats.
Such a person doesn't exist.
And what?
Amateur chess players telling us how top professionals should play the game.
Amateur psychologists telling us about human nature and how said professionals should behave/conduct their affairs.
All very amateurish indeed.
Name a single person at the top of their competitive profession who acted even remotely similar to Nepo after multiple crushing defeats.
Such a person doesn't exist.
And what?
His gripe was that our comments are illogical due to us not being on the same level as Nepo. My comment points out that there is a logical argument for an amateur chess player (like me) to make against Nepo, and while StormCenter's post doesn't do a good job of addressing my argument, there is a way he can i.e. to name a single champion-level competitive professional who took his humiliating losses in stride, the way Nepo appeared to.
I mean... you ask me "and what"
How about "and if you can't follow the conversation then keep your mouth shut"
How about and that 
Amateur chess players telling us how top professionals should play the game.
Amateur psychologists telling us about human nature and how said professionals should behave/conduct their affairs.
All very amateurish indeed.
Name a single person at the top of their competitive profession who acted even remotely similar to Nepo after multiple crushing defeats.
Such a person doesn't exist.
And what?
His gripe was that our comments are illogical due us not being on the same level as Nepo. My comment points out that there is a logical argument for an amateur chess player (like me) to make against Nepo, and while StormCenter's post doesn't do a good job of addressing my argument, there is a way he can i.e. to name a single champion-level competitive professional who took his humiliating losses in stride, the way Nepo appeared to.
I mean... you ask me "and what"
How about "and if you can't follow the conversation then keep your mouth shut"
How about and that
Ok fellow, I will shut my mouth. I wish you best.
That's one of the issues i had with nepo, him handling his losses so well was not "great" or "courageous". It shows a lack of will. Look at magnus and how annoyed he was when he lost to karjakin (he stormed out of the press conference), even vishy was annoyed back in 2013 when magnus was crushing him(it was clear from his answers)
With nepo it all looked fine. This shows any lack of will or expectations from himself. He didn't seem to care about the fact that he is getting destroyed, which is horrible.
I don't disagree. I wonder if part of the fault is the format of the candidates' match.
In a double round robin, it doesn't pay to obsess over a loss; you're not going to play that color against that player again, so it's probably better just to get over it.
In a match, you'd better figure out how to make things turn out differently next time, because all your remaining games are against the same player, half of them with the same color.
Maybe the candidates' should return to a knockout match format, to better select the challenger best suited to contesting a world championship match.
Amateur chess players telling us how top professionals should play the game.
Amateur psychologists telling us about human nature and how said professionals should behave/conduct their affairs.
All very amateurish indeed.
Name a single person at the top of their competitive profession who acted even remotely similar to Nepo after multiple crushing defeats.
Such a person doesn't exist.
And what?
His gripe was that our comments are illogical due us not being on the same level as Nepo. My comment points out that there is a logical argument for an amateur chess player (like me) to make against Nepo, and while StormCenter's post doesn't do a good job of addressing my argument, there is a way he can i.e. to name a single champion-level competitive professional who took his humiliating losses in stride, the way Nepo appeared to.
I mean... you ask me "and what"
How about "and if you can't follow the conversation then keep your mouth shut"
How about and that
Ok fellow, I will shut my mouth. I wish you best.
Oh come on, I'm just joking around.
I don't disagree. I wonder if part of the fault is the format of the candidates' match.
In a double round robin, it doesn't pay to obsess over a loss; you're not going to play that color against that player again, so it's probably better just to get over it.
In a match, you'd better figure out how to make things turn out differently next time, because all your remaining games are against the same player, half of them with the same color.
Maybe the candidates' should return to a knockout match format, to better select the challenger best suited to contesting a world championship match.
No the round-robin format is sufficient, it was the preferred format for most Soviet GMs for good reason.
Everyone plays against each other and accounts for each player's different styles and psychological factors, meaning at the end the winner will have directly shown superiority over all Candidates (assuming it's a decisive win). Knockout doesn't do this, you only play 3 of the 7 Candidates.
Furthermore, round-robin keeps it classical and allows for several other tiebreaks before a rapid playoff is considered. If FIDE were to change the Candidates into a knockout, it would be a 6-game minimatch which is too small of a sample size anyway. It's perfectly likely that all classical games will be drawn and you get to rapid/blitz games which does not prove superiority in skill.
It would also make preparation weird because you don't know who you'll be playing, and there is more variability/randomness involved in the match format.
The fact of that matter is that Nepo came into the Candidates in great form and won it decisively with a round to spare. He didn't have to worry about losses - his opponents did. It's not his fault that Caruana underperformed in both halves and that Ding completely tanked the first half. There's no way to guarantee what form someone will be 7 months after an event. I think the pandemic stalling the Candidates for a year has more to blame. And perhaps there should be a minor revision to the tiebreak criteria.
Handling your losses with class may make you worse as a competitor, but a better as a human being. Decide for yourself which is more important to you.
Interesting opinion but I can't agree with you
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This post is ridiculous.
He handled it well in the sense that he always came to the press conferences and answered all of the retarded questions thrown at him with class.
Deep down he was heartbroken after game 6. All those bathroom runs were probably him trying to keep his compsure.
Imagine spending 8 hours on a game you thought u were gonna win, only to eventually lose in the very end. In front of millions of people.
Also, he had to put up with people like u giving him crap for losing so much. When ur like 1600.
Get outta here
exactly
also nepo can't be undermined (this is to the person who posted)
That's one of the issues i had with nepo, him handling his losses so well was not "great" or "courageous". It shows a lack of will. Look at magnus and how annoyed he was when he lost to karjakin (he stormed out of the press conference), even vishy was annoyed back in 2013 when magnus was crushing him(it was clear from his answers)
With nepo it all looked fine. This shows any lack of will or expectations from himself. He didn't seem to care about the fact that he is getting destroyed, which is horrible.
I don't disagree. I wonder if part of the fault is the format of the candidates' match.
In a double round robin, it doesn't pay to obsess over a loss; you're not going to play that color against that player again, so it's probably better just to get over it.
In a match, you'd better figure out how to make things turn out differently next time, because all your remaining games are against the same player, half of them with the same color.
Maybe the candidates' should return to a knockout match format, to better select the challenger best suited to contesting a world championship match.
I don't think a knockout tournament would be that great. Look at the chess world cup (not the world champtionship), which is a knockout tournament. It was never won by the best player, you can have a less than optimal day and lose out. Every European soccer league has a 'cup' knock-out competition in parallel to their usual league championship, and it is typically not won by the best team. The current format is fine, everyone gets to play against everyone else, it's more robust. It just happens to be that the current field of candidates consists of players that are really close to each other, so anyone can win it and that person might not be the most likely to beat Magnus.
I think this world championship has raised several doubts over whether it selects the best candidate
I think this world championship has raised several doubts over whether it selects the best candidate
I could have told you that back when Gelfand was Anand's challenger 
(Or heck, how about the Kasparov - Shirov match that never happened)
Some matchups are better than others. This year was a mismatch.
I find it so funny that people judge things so intrinsic about people like their will to improve just by looking at their superficial responses and behaviour. Nepo handled it professionally, but that doesn't mean that he isn't gutted within that he messed it up 🤷🏻♀️