Difference beween a 5000-and 3000 rated player

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The 5000 rated player learnt chess from this intergalactic denizen:

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The latter will blunder and mistake more.

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Bab3s wrote:

The user who "almost became a 5000 rated player" that the OP is referring to is ChessNetwork, who demonstrated just how broken the bullet ratings used to be by getting up to a rating of 4200(!). I have no idea how he did that, but certainly in any sane rating system there aren't any 3000-rated players (except an engine I suppose), never mind any 5000-rated players. Yes, I did just call Tactics Trainer ratings insane. So what?

 

in what site?

I bet it's chesscube. The ratings there are ultra-inflated for additional ego boost. It has to do with the fact that you have to pay to play, so they really want to make people feel good.

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There was an interesting extrapolation done by some chess.com user a few years ago that tried to predict what the rating of a perfect player would be based on increasing draw percentages as ratings go up.  The perfect player being able to achieve 100% draws even against perfect play of course.

IIRC it was around 5000.

To answer the OP then, no, a 3000 player would not beat a 5000 rated player.

At the risk of taking this topic seriously of course :p  (It would be nice to dig up that old topic though, where this was estimated).

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plutonia wrote:
Bab3s wrote:

The user who "almost became a 5000 rated player" that the OP is referring to is ChessNetwork, who demonstrated just how broken the bullet ratings used to be by getting up to a rating of 4200(!). I have no idea how he did that, but certainly in any sane rating system there aren't any 3000-rated players (except an engine I suppose), never mind any 5000-rated players. Yes, I did just call Tactics Trainer ratings insane. So what?

 

in what site?

I bet it's chesscube. The ratings there are ultra-inflated for additional ego boost. It has to do with the fact that you have to pay to play, so they really want to make people feel good.

No, it happened on chess.com. There were so many 3000+ ratings that the bullet rating system was reset so that nobody would be over 3000 anymore.

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Here it is:
http://www.chess.com/forum/view/general/the-rating-of-a-perfect-player?page=1

Page 3 Elroch gives an estimate in the 3000s and on page 4 an estimate in the 8000s

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Bab3s wrote:

The user who "almost became a 5000 rated player" that the OP is referring to is ChessNetwork, who demonstrated just how broken the bullet ratings used to be by getting up to a rating of 4200(!). I have no idea how he did that, but certainly in any sane rating system there aren't any 3000-rated players (except an engine I suppose), never mind any 5000-rated players. Yes, I did just call Tactics Trainer ratings insane. So what?

Jerry played at a time when you always gained a point for a win, no matter who your opponent was. 

He played against a lot of newbies who just wanted to play against a titled player, since he is an OG of chess streaming and that was new and exciting.

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Stormstout wrote:

Highest rated player in chess.com has 3004 rating in bullet and it's because he hasn't played rated games in ages.

Hikaru is 3200.

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simple to manipulate ratings by having multiple accounts and scavange points from the auxilliary usernames. to think any given human cant be beat by any other human is ludacris. if your teacher taught you that you cant win based soley on someone elses rating you should fire them and hire a new coach!

 

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Five hundred is impossible

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I can prove that 5000 elo players won't announce mate in 36 after e4 is played. Modern engines can look that much ahead and are rated 3634 (stockfish 16.1). They don't say mate in 36.