Do you remember your plan when playing turn based?

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trysts

I think notes are a form of cheating in turn-based. Perhaps not cheating your opponent, since they may do the same, but cheating yourself. I mean, you should use your own memory at some point. Just my tiny opinion, of course.Wink

FakeMaster
trysts wrote:

I think notes are a form of cheating in turn-based. Perhaps not cheating your opponent, since they may do the same, but cheating yourself. I mean, you should use your own memory at some point. Just my tiny opinion, of course.

Yes it isn't a good thing for a chess player ahve poor memory

stoppeltje

Your opinion is like my wife is doing the groceries each week without a note and forget most of the stuff. Yeah she is cheating herself...Wink

trysts
stoppeltje wrote:

Your opinion is like my wife is doing the groceries each week without a note and forget most of the stuff. Yeah she is cheating herself...

Laughing

ozzie_c_cobblepot

I love taking notes. My main reason for playing turn-based is to get better at OTB chess. In OTB, you don't have this problem of forgetting your analysis between moves because the move is 3 days later, or a month later due to vacation. And if you have 30+ games going at the same time, it's not beneficial to OTB to try to re-do all the analysis, every time.

Also, forcing yourself into writing structured thoughts can help bring more structure to your OTB thinking process. So overall, I think it is great.

gaereagdag
ozzie_c_cobblepot wrote:

I love taking notes. My main reason for playing turn-based is to get better at OTB chess. In OTB, you don't have this problem of forgetting your analysis between moves because the move is 3 days later, or a month later due to vacation. And if you have 30+ games going at the same time, it's not beneficial to OTB to try to re-do all the analysis, every time.

Also, forcing yourself into writing structured thoughts can help bring more structure to your OTB thinking process. So overall, I think it is great.

    THis is all true. Turn/correspondence chess also gives a player what I call "depth understanding" - you see why positions come to outcomes 20 and 30 moves in advance.

   Notes help a lot when coming back to a position after a few days.

SmyslovFan
ozzie_c_cobblepot wrote:

I love taking notes. My main reason for playing turn-based is to get better at OTB chess. In OTB, you don't have this problem of forgetting your analysis between moves because the move is 3 days later, or a month later due to vacation. And if you have 30+ games going at the same time, it's not beneficial to OTB to try to re-do all the analysis, every time.

Also, forcing yourself into writing structured thoughts can help bring more structure to your OTB thinking process. So overall, I think it is great.

Well said!

NimzoRoy

I "annotate" my games in progress using a DB to record them and all of my brilliant(sic) variations and alternative moves. And lots of blunders, mistakes and errors many of which I catch the next day when I review my priceless analysis. In fact since I write everything down sometimes I have trouble separating the wheat from the chaff, although I recently discoverred how to "fold" and "unfold" part or all of my analysis. Next I have to start forcing myself to start deleting a lot of the dud, bad and erroneous lines I come up with in my "Brute Force" searches  instead of leaving them in for reasons even I don't understand.

BattleRifle

I've never used notes. I'm kinda surprised that so many people do. When I get back to my games it's easy for me to see what I was doing based on the position of the pieces.

FakeMaster

The problem might be that when you are writing your thought you got distracted and make a blunder

varelse1
FakeMaster wrote:

Do you remember your plan when playing turn based?

I don't even remember my plan when I buy green bananas!

Creme pie?

Nut bread?

Save for cereal?

Just as all rules are made to be broken, all plans are made to be changed!

TetsuoShima
FakeMaster wrote:

Do you remember your plan when playing turn based?

sometimes i do sometimes i dont

pt22064

I don't usually forget my main plan if i play my next move within a few hours of when i last looked at the board. I might forget some details and lesslikely "side lines" that i looked at. On the other hand, if more than a day or two passes between moves, i often have to reanalyze the entire position. Oddly, i rarely spend a lot of time on any move even in correspondence chess -- typically 2-3 minutes in the middlegame or in a complex endgame, and seconds in an opening that i am familiar with. I think that the most time i ever spent on one move was about 30 minutes in an especially complicated position that i thought might be a turnibg point.

bokek

I just replay the latest moves and work from there

varelse1

If it's super-complicated, I may send myself a message, with the position.

Saint_Anne

Of course I do.  What was the question again?

SmyslovFan

Here's a rule of thumb that makes sense for correspondence:

If you are playing so many games that you don't remember the plan, you're playing too many games.

tfulk
SmyslovFan wrote:

Here's a rule of thumb that makes sense for correspondence:

If you are playing so many games that you don't remember the plan, you're playing too many games.

I like that. I am sometimes guilty of having too many games going, so I have to use the notes. How do you say no to an admin in your group asking if you will join a team match, though? They need more players, so....... off we go! lol

Irontiger
FakeMaster wrote:

Yes but because it's a long game I tend to think about long term plans, not simple 2-moves plans.

At some point, as TheBigDecline wrote, the plan is written in the position of your pieces.

I do not have many correspondance games at the same time, but I never needed to take notes. Basically there are two reasons you would like to do it :

-either there is an ultra-sharp tactical lines that you calculated 10 moves ahead. -> but then, you should anyways recalculate the whole thing at every move

-or you have a deep positional plan (start by putting my knight here, then push this pawn, etc) -> but if you found it once, you should find it back fairly easily when looking at the position.

 

The only reason I would want to take notes is when the position is a huge tactical mess, and I have to leave before having analyse it all - so that I don't havet recalculate the whole thing the next day.

EricFleet

Or you may wAnt to recreate your thought process after the game for analysis purpose.