Does chess.com have the toughest pool of players?

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MGleason
SuperiorConfidentHot wrote:

I think there are amateur players that are very competitive with if not better than the top GMs but that's besides the point.

That's true, but they get banned pretty quickly.  For some reason these amateur players are only good at online events.

By the time you get to 2400 ish FIDE,   you no longer have "many opponents" and would start seeing the same faces on repeat and run the risk of being the strongest person online and playing at some time or another.  The rest might be able to find a good game at any hour of the day and on demand,   you lose that convenience WAY before 2800 FIDE

Sure, there will be slow times when there aren't as many GMs online.  But only a tiny percentage of site members are titled.  The typical site member is rated somewhere between 800 and 1400.  Even if you're well outside that range, only a tiny percentage of site members need to worry about slow times and whether or not the other GMs will be online right now.

MGleason

For a genuinely strong player, I don't disagree.

brianchesscake
MGleason wrote:

Fabiano Caruana can find competition at his level on any major site.  The only player who can't is Carlsen, simply because he's a class above everyone else.

Carlsen recently lost to MVL in the speed chess championship hosted by chess.com.

Even he is not invincible.

blueemu

Nobody is invincible. Anand once blundered a Knight on move SIX (against Garcia, perhaps?).

EDIT: It was against Zapata! Alonso Zapata vs Viswanathan Anand (1988) (chessgames.com)

Happy2020Everybody

Chess.com has the toughest pool of player in 2020.

In 2008, it didn't. 

I know. I played on chess.com in 2008.

catmaster0
SuperiorConfidentHot wrote:
MGleason wrote:
SuperiorConfidentHot wrote:

I think there are amateur players that are very competitive with if not better than the top GMs but that's besides the point.

That's true, but they get banned pretty quickly.  For some reason these amateur players are only good at online events.

Disagree,  I think that in the case of strong players playing online or with a physical board makes no difference because by that point visualization and working memory is strong and utilized more than enough to compensate for how the board might look and a board shouldn't be needed at all!  

I don't think you got it, lol.

nTzT
Aarushi-Talwar wrote:

Chess.com has the toughest pool of player in 2020.

In 2008, it didn't. 

I know. I played on chess.com in 2008.

Based on what exactly?

blueemu
SuperiorConfidentHot wrote:

explain?

MGleason is talking about Engine Monkeys.

catmaster0
SuperiorConfidentHot wrote:
blueemu wrote:
SuperiorConfidentHot wrote:

explain?

MGleason is talking about Engine Monkeys.

Oh I understand.   When I suggested amateur players who were very superior I meant people who were just really talented or well suited.   We talked right past each other.  Thanks for clearing that up.  

They didn't take that idea very seriously. The idea of there being amateur players who could take on the best in the world is... unlikely. After all, the best in the world are constantly practicing and playing vs each other. There's no reason for there to be random players out there who could take them on. 

blueemu
catmaster0 wrote:

They didn't take that idea very seriously. The idea of there being amateur players who could take on the best in the world is... unlikely.

Albin Planinc.

Untitled (not even CM).

Qualified for the Vidmar Memorial in 1969, and won the tournament ahead of GMs Gligoric, Unzicker, Tringov, Byrne, Matanovic, Georghiu, Parma, Robatch, etc.

Vidmar Memorial (1969) (chessgames.com)

Caesar49bc

ELO is pretty much specific to a website, unless it's a chess server that offered rated games based on an OTB system. -Usually either USCF or FIDE. Even then, its only rated that way if you have 2 players with memberships in the OTB organization, and they agree to play a game based on whatever rules are used to rate such games under the OTB rating system.

PaulTheTaylor

In a Chessclub you get to meet very good players, but hardly any of them can beat the Top Members, I mean I played in 3 simuls OTB against two IMs and one GM.

Nobody won a game, and their were 3 draws out of roughly 60 games in total.

So that proves how difficult it gets.

PaulTheTaylor

Liverpool Chess Club had many simuls before the Pandemic.

nTzT
blueemu wrote:
catmaster0 wrote:

They didn't take that idea very seriously. The idea of there being amateur players who could take on the best in the world is... unlikely.

Albin Planinc.

Untitled (not even CM).

Qualified for the Vidmar Memorial in 1969, and won the tournament ahead of GMs Gligoric, Unzicker, Tringov, Byrne, Matanovic, Georghiu, Parma, Robatch, etc.

Vidmar Memorial (1969) (chessgames.com)

He probably used Stockfish on his iPhone

blueemu
nTzT wrote:
blueemu wrote:
catmaster0 wrote:

They didn't take that idea very seriously. The idea of there being amateur players who could take on the best in the world is... unlikely.

Albin Planinc.

Untitled (not even CM).

Qualified for the Vidmar Memorial in 1969, and won the tournament ahead of GMs Gligoric, Unzicker, Tringov, Byrne, Matanovic, Georghiu, Parma, Robatch, etc.

Vidmar Memorial (1969) (chessgames.com)

He probably used Stockfish on his iPhone

If that's the case, he deserves the Nobel Prize for inventing a functioning time machine.

nTzT
blueemu wrote:
nTzT wrote:
blueemu wrote:
catmaster0 wrote:

They didn't take that idea very seriously. The idea of there being amateur players who could take on the best in the world is... unlikely.

Albin Planinc.

Untitled (not even CM).

Qualified for the Vidmar Memorial in 1969, and won the tournament ahead of GMs Gligoric, Unzicker, Tringov, Byrne, Matanovic, Georghiu, Parma, Robatch, etc.

Vidmar Memorial (1969) (chessgames.com)

He probably used Stockfish on his iPhone

If that's the case, he deserves the Nobel Prize for inventing a functioning time machine.

I know right... he was robbed of his Nobel Prize just like he was his GM title!

blueemu

He eventually got a GM title (in 1972).

 

nTzT

Noice

2Ke21-0

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Steven-ODonoghue
2Ke21-0 wrote:

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