Don't be THAT guy at the chess tournament

Don't be that guy who picks his nose before every move...

And don't be that guy who drinks/eats something smelly (Snapple, onion foods, cheese, etc.) and then loudly mouth-breathes throughout the entire game.

Corn chips have to be the worst smelling snack food when someone else is eating them.  I like them myself and think they're delicious, but when I smell someone else eating them they smell like really dirty socks.

Very well put...

Think about it!

You have developed good habits to get where you are now. The way you approach the table even down to the way pick a piece and move it. The way you scan the board with your eyes using board vision. The way sit in the chair to get comfortable for a game( my favorite way to tell how my opponent fells today). Cops use that one also on suspects.

If they try a couple things on you and you feel more relaxed than his usual victims he is going to suspect something.

I know most of them do not have all these skills but they specialize in atleast one of them. And to get to where they are they must have been hustled a couple times themselves. lol.

(they eating ...smell like really dirty socks) - (they are delicious) = ?

Ahhh if you follow this equation it the person who has odors in their mouth.   lol.

Either he is hungry

or that is he finds the answer to the next move

or that is a 2013 way to give you the middle finger.

"You can pick your friends & you can pick your nose, but you can't pick your friend's nose!"

...or...

"Don't pick your nose on a bumpy road!"

Well i am not going to be out done by this guy

 igoing to pick the left and right@same time

Oh no, absolutely not! I specifically meant saying check before completing the move by hitting the clock. I ardently deny anything at all about reminding my opponent before he makes his move!

What I meant was that a check might change the tactics for my opponent. I can think he planned a move even if he doesn't reach for it (and again, this is not on my opponent's time -- I really want to make that clear) -- I can think he planned a certain move simply because it would seem that move justifies his previous moves. That doesn't mean I think it is likely that he would actually forget that it was check; I could still think that there is a very low chance that he misses it. 

I will say though it's not fair to make assumptions about your opponent's intentions -- checking to make sure is very different from making a prediction. I might make a prediction that something is 99% likely, but still want to test it to make sure. You have to consider the possibility that when a person plays on a position, they think it is extremely unlikely that they are going to save the position. Maybe they think there's a better chance than that, but you just don't know. I know that when I said check that one time, I indeed thought there was a very low chance that my opponent would not notice that, but wanted to make sure.

I don't think it's fair to assume your opponent assumes that you missed the check. Maybe he is, but it's also possible that he might still think there is a very low chance that you missed the check.

To summarize, I don't like it that people interpret things that are really ambiguous -- it's becoming a pet peeve of mine, because I have a feeling many innocent people have been thought to be jerks when they weren't trying to be. It's similar to people claiming gg to be rude or sarcastic when they played a bad game. Ok, maybe they are, but you just don't know if they are just automatically saying that as their standard polite phrase. I think it is generally too hard to be confident in interpretations to make these kinds of judgments. If a guy says "You're a loser," ok, I'll interpret that as "I'm a loser," but sometimes intentions aren't as clear.

Indeed, I might even compare it to a murder conviction, just on a much smaller scale. Maybe a person looks suspicious, but as a way of protecting the innocent just in case, don't make a quick judgment until the evidence is a little more clear. Fine, maybe that means 95% of these guys, hell, maybe even 99% of these guys, are criminals and are having a delayed arrest, but I guess I'm ok with that because I detest the innocent being convicted of a crime so much. In chess, it could be having good intentions while playing on, but being "convicted" as a jerk by everyone simply because it "seemed" like it was spiteful.

Captains Log: 2013.2.2

I am in the thread "Don't be THAT guy......"

When i first entered it was normal. I proceed to go further and explore. Found life forms and they were friendly, human. First contact established. As time went along we shared many things in common.

Captains Log: 2013.2.2

It has been sometime later and we are being approached. Red Alert came out of nowhere. We are in the defensive situation.

It is the President of the NRU Elubas - Non Resigners Union and his stand is that at no time they are wrong even if they hold up a group in a tournament and the entire group. Even if they have 0-1 pts and have no chance to win or even draw.

But recently he changed his stance and gave in an inch which took like 100,000 comments to just get to that point. And still with his Political skills works to find a way out the corner.

Warning Will Robinson he will not Resign. Your a skill are no match for Elubas. When i say give in to him just do it. Some how we are all in his world and he controls the Horizontal and Vertical ( Outer Limits).

It's not really about resigning -- it's about a general philosophy that as you can see, I am applying to a lot of things. I know you want to remind everyone that I defend playing on and want to remind everyone that you disagree with that, but it's not really the main point of what I am saying here.

So... you're saying check to be nice, and I'm the on making assumptions about my opponent when I interpret his audible "check"?

Aren't you the one making assumptions, that your opponent planned a certain move and also assuming he needs a reminder that the tactics have changed?  I mean, you may even think he's sure to see it's check so I guess I don't understand your reasoning at all.  The only reason I'd break the norm and say "check" would be if I think my opponent didn't notice it was a check.  Isn't that the whole point of beginners saying "check" to eachother?

Anyway you seem to be the one making more assumptions about your opponent in this case.

No, I'm not assuming he needs a reminder -- that's the whole point. If I think there is only, say, a .01% chance he needs a reminder, I don't really consider that an assumption. I think of assumptions as being really confident about it. And I considered your part an assumption because you seemed pretty confident about the opponent's intentions, as if you knew them.

That's the distinction, at least the one I'm making, right or not (but at least you will know better what I mean now!)

Spock would say here against this situation.

It would be illogical to go for a win against Elubas it would end in a draw

Trust me when i say this waffllemaster stop while you have a chance. You think your winning or might win but you already lost. You will go to sleep one and dream about this. And worse if he wins in your dreams it is going to be .......

It's not about winning or losing, royalbishop. I think it's more about the process of discussing that's important, as it helps people better understand each other's points of view.

Hmm, I guess I'm still having trouble understanding why you say it in the first place.  I re-read the posts and I think it's this?  Correct me if I'm wrong:

"I indeed thought there was a very low chance that my opponent would not notice that, but wanted to make sure."

So you're breaking a norm because, even if it's a very low chance, you either don't want your opponent to waste time analysing illegal moves, or you don't want him to make an illegal move.  Elubas, it is patronising to help an opponent.  You're supposed to beat them, it's a competition.  If you can't see this I have to think you can't understand your opponent's POV and are overly focused in your own little world of "wanting to be sure."

In any competition if my opponent helped me I'd either think they're rude or an idiot.

Now next tournament i go to i am going to be Elubas.

I figure i can win my first game without eve moving a piece. Sit back and enjoy a bag of Popcorn. When the clock runs out i say i did not lose and he did not win = I win. I have been studing Elubas school of thought. This should be an easy win/ one. As they will want to move on. 

Now for my 2nd i will use the Lysol Opening....

Yeah you know it. The original Lysol spray makes me sneeze like crazy. I will whip that can out and start spraying the board, the pieces, the table, chairs  and everything within 10 feet. A BIF OLD LYSOL FOG... I WIN.

For the 3rd win i figure i reverse it a little. I pay somebody who already is elimated some money to get into a litte pushing match with my next opponent before they even sit down

4th win this is going to require some skill as it will become obvious something funny is going on here. Continue it later.

I remember a thread a while back where the OP was griping cause after he said check to his opponent several times, the TD came over, and tipped his king for him.