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AntonioVivaldiJr

I've never had a situation where en passant capture was more satisfying. In the blitz game linked, I went from a loss to a win because of an opponent's mistake. He or she had a sense of humor about it but I can't imagine playing the same game in a coffee shop against a stranger and being told I'm making that rule up! Whenever I play someone new, I can't help this intense compulsion to just ask, "You know what en passant is, right?" to avoid any situations.

 

The move in question is 49 . . . a5.

 

https://www.chess.com/live/game/1823665092

 

AntonioVivaldiJr

Absolutely agree. It's just that we're always going to meet someone who doesn't know the rule and then accuses you of making it up. The way en passant works, it's just ripe for a certain type to say just that because when he tries it, *three moves* later, and you say, "You can't do that now," he'll say you're changing the rules as you go along, blah, blah, blah. 

I asked a friend once if he knows en passant before we played for the first time and he just looked at me blankly with a sarcastic look on his face. He said, "Are you kidding me with a stupid question like that? I've been playing since I was a kid."

 

Damned if you do, damned if you don't!

 

Another thing is what we're dealing with here is casual chess players. They don't really take the game seriously and might just play a game when family is around for Christmas. And these are the ones who insist that they can put their king next to yours, that you have to say "check," that a pawn can move two spaces only on the first move of the game, etc. En passant is just special because it doesn't come up as often as the other rules of the game.

ArgoNavis

Antonio Vivaldi was a priest, so (I hope) he did not have any children. And even if he had, they would be dead by now.

Therefore, your username is a lie.

Therefore, you may be a liar.

Therefore, we cannot be sure about anything you write.

Therefore, everything you wrote in this thread might be a lie.

Therefore, maybe that game was not played.

Therefore, we should conclude this is not a serious comment.

aln67

"Another thing is what we're dealing with here is casual chess players. They don't really take the game seriously and might just play a game when family is around for Christmas. And these are the ones who insist that they can put their king next to yours, that you have to say "check," that a pawn can move two spaces only on the first move of the game, etc. En passant is just special because it doesn't come up as often as the other rules of the game."

My father in law once opened his game with e3 and d3 played together as the first move, pretending it was allowed in replacement of e4 or d4 !


AntonioVivaldiJr

 aln67, he may have just thought it was acceptable. Someone once told me you have to call check whenever your *queen* is under attack. He actually thought it was part of the rules. 

fazarsn

 yeah been there. Usually I just show some people how the rule works with app on my phone. they'll understand faster. but about calling check when king or queen under attack, that just agreement between player, you know because in tournament if you make some illegal move, you lose immediately, maybe thats why there are no tournament rules to call "check"

AntonioVivaldiJr

Fazar, if you make an illegal move in a tournament, it's an automatic loss. I didn't know that. 

 

The other way to look at the "calling check" rule is that one can also just say check even if there isn't one. This could confuse the other player and possibly force him or her to make a poor move. When I'm playing casually, I won't say check, except out of courtesy, or if a player is going to make a move that does not address his king being in check. But that usually would have me say, "You're in check. My knight is checking your king," while pointing to the appropriate pieces.