I almost always play out lost games. I'm still very new (well, not new, just not very good). It's instructive to me to play out lost games to see how better players execute their middle-game and end-game strategies when ahead.
If I've just blundered away three major pieces, that's a different story. But if we're at rook and pawn vs. bishop, I want to see what happens.
Many of you agree that asking your opponent to resign is arrogant - and I couldn't agree more. However, circumstances (such as those I described in my situation) can effect what is deemed arrogant. In my case, I was asked to draw twice. Given the material left and position on the board it was asinine to assume I'd agree to a draw. Thus, after they sent two requests for a draw I had to tell the person they either needed to make a move or resign the game (I was stating their only options at that time). Would you call that arrogance on my part?
Many of you agree that asking your opponent to resign is arrogant - and I couldn't agree more. However, circumstances (such as those I described in my situation) can effect what is deemed arrogant. In my case, I was asked to draw twice. Given the material left and position on the board it was asinine to assume I'd agree to a draw. Thus, after they sent two requests for a draw I had to tell the person they either needed to make a move or resign the game (I was stating their only options at that time). Would you call that arrogance on my part?
Absolutely not, constant draw offers are as annoying as requests to resign.
If the game seems hopless, I think it is proper to announce "that it really seems I'm lost with this one, I'm ready to resign unless you want to practice your endgame..."
Problem with resigning early on, after misplayed opening or such is that you never ever really get to play real endgame.
But yes, I agree it is rude to ask opponent to resign, unless he is good friend and knows your humor ( I once asked my old time friend to resign - before opening move :-)).
I think that basically, its really rude to request resignation online, because it's patronising,whereas OTB I would possibly do it myself, because it's easier to appeal to someones reasonability (i.e when the only possibility of not losing is a blunder leading to stalemate)
On the other hand, I think it's also rude/ unfair if you continue a clearly lost position online, speculating on a timeout for example (Maybe I'm wrong about this technically, but I experienced that if you time out with King and Queen against a solitary King, it's considered a loss, a case that as far as I know, is a draw according to FIDE)
Sometimes acknowledging that you are defeated, but requesting continued play will turn an unfortunate incident to your advantage.At the very least you may get to practice your endgame and in my opinion that's important.
Is it ever polite to request the resignation of another player, no matter what position they be in?
I'm in a game with someone who - rather rudely - just asked me too. If he hadn't said anything, I was already planning to in a few moves anyways. Its a completely lost position at this point. Now I feel like drawing this out as long as possible, as I really didn't like the tone he took. I would even call insulting. (He was also pretty rude in the previous game we played, in which I won).
I too have encountered alot of rudeness when playing online. But i also experience the exact opposite when playing OTB. So its pretty obvious that many are rude online simply because they can. They arent infront of the other player, and feel the "safety" of sitting at a computer alone.
That is definitely rude. Especially since you are a player with a good rating. It is like your opponent is saying, "I am better than you and know that you have already lost."
What I really cannot understand is when people resign after they lose their queen. With some people it's almost automatic. Or if they lose a couple of pieces early in the game. It happens more in blitz chess, which tells me that people do it not because they feel their position is unwinnable, but because all they want is to be in a strong position all through the game. They don't enjoy being the weaker side. And that's a shame for them - there's nothing sweeter than coming back from a weaker position and being victorious.
Is it ever polite to request the resignation of another player, no matter what position they be in?
I'm in a game with someone who - rather rudely - just asked me too. If he hadn't said anything, I was already planning to in a few moves anyways. Its a completely lost position at this point. Now I feel like drawing this out as long as possible, as I really didn't like the tone he took. I would even call insulting. (He was also pretty rude in the previous game we played, in which I won).
+1
I still hold the same opinion after all this time
I still hold the same opinion after all this time
The sky is not blue.
I still hold the same opinion after all this time
Since I didn't see a post above this by Suggo, I take it this is the big opportunity to ask just what his opinion is that hasn't changed all this time.
Can I get some advices on this game? :D
I still hold the same opinion after all this time
The sky is not blue.
Yes that is correct, the sky is not actually blue!
The opinion Dr, is that no one has to resign and should they wish to play on in what others might consider an unwinnable position that is their right. Considering most players here make a multitude of errors the game really isn't completely lost until the fat lady actually sings...
I dont think it is acceptable to ask your opponent for a resignation under any circumstances. If you really think he is at a point where he/she should resign, then you should be able to win without asking for a resignation. So i say that you should drag the match out awhile longer just to make him realize the lack of respect it shows to ask for your resignation.
- Gerik
Well put, I totally agree...