Fight, Flight, Freeze: Responding to a Stronger Opponent

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enoughwiththeblues
bong711 wrote:

Don't play passively or resign prematurely. The higher rated opponent is human and can be defeated in his bad day. Spar with 3000+ engines to get confidence. If you play up to 30 moves with the engines, you can play more than 40 moves with 2000+ humans. Who wins, is not clear.

Ill try that 3000+ engines. Thank you for your suggestions. I dont play against a computer because they do perfect calculations and it makes me want to hurt them.😆😆 haha. But i cant so, i end up banging my head on the headboard instead.😆😆

bong711
69AlphaMale109 wrote:
enoughwiththeblues wrote:

Playing a stronger opponent triggers three distinct responses from me. I either fight (when I can), flight (goodbye chess.com, I am out of here and probably be in hiatus for several years) or freeze (waiting for the blow that ends my suffering).

Here is an example of my flight response, a recent game I played somewhere. This, however, is riddled with blunders. I actually run out of squares in this one. Ha 

What's your most common response when faced with a formidable foe?

 

I have yet to face someone stronger than me in my entire ife?

Are you strongest man of 2019?

bong711

Lol! Just having fun!

bong711

Editing L is an accident.

bong711

It's understood anyway by average brains.

bong711

@AlphaMale Do you spar against 3000+ engines?

Nghtstalker
enoughwiththeblues wrote:
Nghtstalker wrote:

One thing to remember you are playing an opponent.  But ultimately you are playing a position.  And your own limitations.  So in a sense our real opponent is ourselves.  And u live with yourself so deep breath learn and enjoy!

 

Thats deep and poetic😊. I like it. 😄

I play GO and realized I play my best when I relax and "zen"  not worry about who I am playing or even winning, but find the best move.  (Easier said than done.)  But glad u liked it hope it helps!

 

enoughwiththeblues
Nghtstalker wrote:
enoughwiththeblues wrote:
Nghtstalker wrote:

One thing to remember you are playing an opponent.  But ultimately you are playing a position.  And your own limitations.  So in a sense our real opponent is ourselves.  And u live with yourself so deep breath learn and enjoy!

 

Thats deep and poetic😊. I like it. 😄

I play GO and realized I play my best when I relax and "zen"  not worry about who I am playing or even winning, but find the best move.  (Easier said than done.)  But glad u liked it hope it helps!

 

Am not familiar with GO (although ive heard reference to it in Japanesse movies and animes😊). Games bring out people's characters they say. Good or bad. Since its bringing out your good side, thats is amazing. On my end, its bringing out a lot of the negative though. Hahaha. So sometimes, after a loss, i take a second to be mindful. Just to reason with myself and say, because you lose doesnt make you a lesser person. Winning does not define a character. Its difficult to accept someone is better. Haha. I always take my loses seriously. I shouldnt. Its not a good way forward.😊😊

Tja_05

My most common response is to fight. After all, it's a chance to collect some serious rating! 😂

IMKeto
enoughwiththeblues wrote:
IMBacon wrote:

Its a hurdle im sure we all have endured through for many things in life. 

You can only control you.  Play the board.  Find the best moves you can.  Have fun.  The rest will take care of itself.

 

I cant agree more with controlling myself and my responses. Am sort of an emotional player so, the control part is a constant battle. Haha. Calmness is definitely the way forward, it has always been my Achilles heel. 😆😆 Thank you for your suggestion. These are well taken.

I knew it was time to quit play OTB tournaments when i was no longer able to block out all the outside distractions.  I could concentrate and nothing would distract me.  Over time, those "distractions" became harder and harder to block out.  Finally getting to the point where it became nearly impossible for me to put in the concentration to play. 

enoughwiththeblues
JustARandomPatzer wrote:

My most common response is to fight. After all, it's a chance to collect some serious rating! 😂

Haha, 😆😆. True that. Fighting also is a better option. Sometimes am thinking, am dead anyway so let him have both rooks, them bishops, all the pawns. And yes, them queen too. But after several loses, i do a 180, and run.😂

enoughwiththeblues
IMBacon wrote:
enoughwiththeblues wrote:
IMBacon wrote:

Its a hurdle im sure we all have endured through for many things in life. 

You can only control you.  Play the board.  Find the best moves you can.  Have fun.  The rest will take care of itself.

 

I cant agree more with controlling myself and my responses. Am sort of an emotional player so, the control part is a constant battle. Haha. Calmness is definitely the way forward, it has always been my Achilles heel. 😆😆 Thank you for your suggestion. These are well taken.

I knew it was time to quit play OTB tournaments when i was no longer able to block out all the outside distractions.  I could concentrate and nothing would distract me.  Over time, those "distractions" became harder and harder to block out.  Finally getting to the point where it became nearly impossible for me to put in the concentration to play. 

It is amazing for you to recognize its time to stop playing OTB tournaments. For me its a bit difficult to quit something I like doing even if my performance is declining. Haha. But i do take breaks, perhaps months, then return online. Once am back, its a phase of always playing until i hit rock bottom, stop, and return again. Then the cycle continues. 😂

IMKeto
enoughwiththeblues wrote:
IMBacon wrote:
enoughwiththeblues wrote:
IMBacon wrote:

Its a hurdle im sure we all have endured through for many things in life. 

You can only control you.  Play the board.  Find the best moves you can.  Have fun.  The rest will take care of itself.

 

I cant agree more with controlling myself and my responses. Am sort of an emotional player so, the control part is a constant battle. Haha. Calmness is definitely the way forward, it has always been my Achilles heel. 😆😆 Thank you for your suggestion. These are well taken.

I knew it was time to quit play OTB tournaments when i was no longer able to block out all the outside distractions.  I could concentrate and nothing would distract me.  Over time, those "distractions" became harder and harder to block out.  Finally getting to the point where it became nearly impossible for me to put in the concentration to play. 

It is amazing for you to recognize its time to stop playing OTB tournaments. For me its a bit difficult to quit something I like doing even if my performance is declining. Haha. But i do take breaks, perhaps months, then return online. Once am back, its a phase of always playing until i hit rock bottom, stop, and return again. Then the cycle continues. 😂

While i still enjoy the game.  If i am not able to put in the time and effort to prepare and play well?  I would rather not play.

alexandermatos
enoughwiththeblues wrote:

Playing a stronger opponent triggers three distinct responses from me. I either fight (when I can), flight (goodbye chess.com, I am out of here and probably be in hiatus for several years) or freeze (waiting for the blow that ends my suffering).

Here is an example of my flight response, a recent game I played somewhere. This, however, is riddled with blunders. I actually run out of squares in this one. Ha 

What's your most common response when faced with a formidable foe?

 

You played a good game, but you definitely made some mistakes.

1. You played f4 right after d4. This opening moves is definitely unusual. You should be well prepared before you play this opening. Book opening

2. At move 6, you played h3. This is very passive and doesn’t accomplish anything. You should have played e4 to gain space and take full advantage of the opening. Mistake.

3. At move 20, you played Bg4. You are under attack and need to defend the king against attacks. You're move does nothing to defend against these threats. Your opponent will play e5 to open the position and attack your vulnerable king. A better move would have been Rg1. Mistake.

4. At move 23, you played Qg4. This is a terrible move that losses the game. Your king will be exposed to rook checks. If you survive the threats, you are surely to lose material and get a losing position. Qe2 defends against the attacks better, but is still losing in the end. Blunder.

What I noticed was that in the entirety of the game, you have never castled. It was no surprise, then, that you fell for his attack. Don’t forget basic chess principles! Also, it seemed that you played very passively when you were under attack, and even when you weren’t. Don’t be scared. Take your time when your opponent attacks you and don’t be afraid to attack yourself. Often, your opponent might fall for a tactical motif and you need to attack to win the game. 

Your game - 

 

enoughwiththeblues
IMBacon wrote:

While i still enjoy the game.  If i am not able to put in the time and effort to prepare and play well?  I would rather not play.

This is a very good point. I have always found an excuse not to study chess properly, how the annotations are confusing, so in effect am not really preparing myself to play well, and thus the insignificant progress.😣 haha. Stronger player deserves their strength because they put time and effort into it. Honing those skills. Hehe. In my defense, i watch top games often. But i get loss in their moves. I was hoping to learn in there, but before i can process whats happening, the game is over. 😆😆

enoughwiththeblues

@alexandermatos, haha your comments on my game are on point. In this game i was really passive. I would like to think its not always the case. Am working on bravery more. 😆😆 thank you for your analysis. This is appreciated.

IMKeto
enoughwiththeblues wrote:
IMBacon wrote:

While i still enjoy the game.  If i am not able to put in the time and effort to prepare and play well?  I would rather not play.

This is a very good point. I have always found an excuse not to study chess properly, how the annotations are confusing, so in effect am not really preparing myself to play well, and thus the insignificant progress.😣 haha. Stronger player deserves their strength because they put time and effort into it. Honing those skills. Hehe. In my defense, i watch top games often. But i get loss in their moves. I was hoping to learn in there, but before i can process whats happening, the game is over. 😆😆

The last tournament i played in last October.  I lost all my games.  I had people asking me how i was doing, and i told them.  2 people said i was an inspiration to them, and others couldn't figure out why i was in such a good mood for losing all my games.  I told 'em that its growth.

bong711
69AlphaMale109 wrote:
bong711 wrote:

@AlphaMale Do you spar against 3000+ engines?

Engines are weaker than the best humans.

Carlsen and Super GMs should learn from you in subject of self confidence. They conceded that Engines are the best chess players.

ThatOneGuy2019
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IMKeto
bong711 wrote:
69AlphaMale109 wrote:
bong711 wrote:

@AlphaMale Do you spar against 3000+ engines?

Engines are weaker than the best humans.

Carlsen and Super GMs should learn from you in subject of self confidence. They conceded that Engines are the best chess players.

69AlphaMale109 is on drmrboss's "friends" list.  Thats all you need to know.