they were the best in the world at around the same age. as fair a comparison as i can come up with.
Fischer or Carlsen?
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Nov 23, 2013
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That was far too rational. However I'd disagree as Fischer wasn't able to take the championship until he was 30, give or take. So by that measure Carlsen is a good 8 years AHEAD of Fischer.
Nov 23, 2013
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#6
There was no number 2 player with Fischer. Carlsen might get there.
If you are asking who would win a match, the answer for so many reasons, is Carlsen. If Carlsen were born in 1950... who knows.
If you asked Magnus the same question he would absolutely say Fischer.
kantifields wrote:
Fischer's peak ELO was 2895!!
prove it !!
Nov 23, 2013
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unique1234567890 wrote:
kantifields wrote:
Fischer's peak ELO was 2895!!
prove it !!
You are correct. I should have said Fischer's adjusted ELO to the current rating method would have been 2895. His actual peak was under 2800.
Kasparov.
Left at their own dispossal, Fischer is better way way better than Carlsen. The 16th World Champion has benefited from computer technology. Kasparov compared him to a Karpov but make no mistake about it Carlsen do know how to go for the kill. But if unaided the way FIscher was, i doubt if he could reach what he had achieved now.
Nov 23, 2013
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Kant, I don't understand your point. Fischer was NOT the best in the world when he was at Carlen's current age, at least by any measure that I am aware of.
Carlsen is the best in all history.
polydiatonic wrote:
Kant, I don't understand your point. Fischer was NOT the best in the world when he was at Carlen's current age, at least by any measure that I am aware of.
fischer was the best in the world six years before he even became world chess champion. (try reading karpovs strategic wins book1),
If you're asking who I like better then Fischer.
Nov 23, 2013
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#16
Carlsen, because Fischer would be too busy crying over the color of the tablecloths.
Nov 23, 2013
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#17
Carlsen. Ack, I know. I love Fischer, but these are changing times. I am hopelessly an Fischer fan....but, how can I deny an talent like Carlsen? Future generations will study HIS games, know him as the "best". I am an relic, only able ta relate to him (Bobby) but as it is, Magnus is the Future. Cool.
It's a fascinating question but Fisher played in a different era so I can't see a way to compare them. They both have good end games, Fischer may have an edge in openings but they are a bit out of date, both have good calculating power but we have more of Fischers games to analyse.
Maybe we need to see how Carlson evolves over the next few years.
Fischer v Kasparov is also a fascinating comparison that we can only speculate about
carlsen!!!!!!!!!!!!
Fisch .... er.
#25.
Fischer page ( page not available ) -- 415 wins, 248 draws, 85 loses. Source-- bobbyfischer.net ----> 55.48%, 33.16%, 11.36%. Total 748 games (100%)
Magnus's page--- http://ratings.fide.com/chess_statistics.phtml?event=1503014. Source-- FIDE:
199W, 274D, 64 L ------> 37.06%, 51.02%, 18.44%. Total 537 games (100%).
Watch the explosion...