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Games archive and Rating history - inconsistency?

SeaSideMate
Enjoyed playing here about 2 months, learning the site... Question: When I visit archived games, to me they don't show players Rating at the time of that play, but their present rating? Eg Lichess does show, this is quite important fact in analysing, isn't it? Also, looks like the "Best Win" opponent rating shows the opponent rating after the game, not when you played? Have I misunderstood something? These ways of recording history do not feel logical to me?
Martin_Stahl
SeaSideMate wrote:
Enjoyed playing here about 2 months, learning the site... Question: When I visit archived games, to me they don't show players Rating at the time of that play, but their present rating? Eg L* does show, this is quite important fact in analysing, isn't it? Also, looks like the "Best Win" opponent rating shows the opponent rating after the game, not when you played? Have I misunderstood something? These ways of recording history do not feel logical to me?

 

The ratings shown in the Archive are the ratings received after the game completion. It's considered the most accurate representation of the players' strength at that point.

SeaSideMate

But ...When I browse Archive, I do not see Rating at the time of play. It shows my present. Not sure if shows opponent present or play time, will check. 

Martin_Stahl
SeaSideMate wrote:

But ...When I browse Archive, I do not see Rating at the time of play. It shows my present. Not sure if shows opponent present or play time, will check. 

 

I see your rating changing in the archive on the website. Nothing seems wrong.

SeaSideMate

Maybe it is then the Android app, have never used web site. Thanks for guiding!

KingMoored

I see the same and you are correct, it does not seem logical to do it this  way.


The Android app Archive shows the current ratings of the players and not the ratings at the time of the game.

Also, if you export the PGN of the game, it prints Today's Date and not the Date the game was actually played.

At some point one of us Android users should report this in the feedback to the developers so they can look at it.

Martin_Stahl
KingMoored wrote:

I see the same and you are correct, it does not seem logical to do it this  way.


The Android app Archive shows the current ratings of the players and not the ratings at the time of the game.

Also, if you export the PGN of the game, it prints Today's Date and not the Date the game was actually played.

At some point one of us Android users should report this in the feedback to the developers so they can look at it.

 

I've verified that on the current version of the app and have submitted a problem report.

B1ZMARK
SeaSideMate hat geschrieben:

But ...When I browse Archive, I do not see Rating at the time of play. It shows my present. Not sure if shows opponent present or play time, will check. 

You must be using the app. If you want to look at the ratings of the players at the time of the game you have to log onto the website.

B1ZMARK
KingMoored hat geschrieben:

I see the same and you are correct, it does not seem logical to do it this  way.


The Android app Archive shows the current ratings of the players and not the ratings at the time of the game.

Also, if you export the PGN of the game, it prints Today's Date and not the Date the game was actually played.

At some point one of us Android users should report this in the feedback to the developers so they can look at it.

I use the iOS app sometimes and it has that problem as well. When I click on the win against the highest rated player I’ve beaten it shows my current rating.

KingMoored
Martin_Stahl wrote:
KingMoored wrote:

I see the same and you are correct, it does not seem logical to do it this  way.


The Android app Archive shows the current ratings of the players and not the ratings at the time of the game.

Also, if you export the PGN of the game, it prints Today's Date and not the Date the game was actually played.

At some point one of us Android users should report this in the feedback to the developers so they can look at it.

 

I've verified that on the current version of the app and have submitted a problem report.

Thank you Martin, your the best! happy.png

KingMoored
Martin_Stahl wrote:
KingMoored wrote:

I see the same and you are correct, it does not seem logical to do it this  way.


The Android app Archive shows the current ratings of the players and not the ratings at the time of the game.

Also, if you export the PGN of the game, it prints Today's Date and not the Date the game was actually played.

At some point one of us Android users should report this in the feedback to the developers so they can look at it.

 

I've verified that on the current version of the app and have submitted a problem report.

Ok, lets see if we can get this bug fixed too. 

I have submitted a "bug" report:

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OS Version: Android API 29
Device: Alco | RCT6716Q25
App Version: 210608 | 4.2.12-googleplay
Build type: release | 10
Username: KingMoored (DIAMOND)
UserId: 104279280
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When a previous played game from the Archive is loaded for Analysis, the Elo ratings displayed for both players are present Elo ratings and not Elo ratings from the game when played.

In addition, if the PGN from an Archived game is copied, the Date is recorded as Today's Date and not the Date when the game was actually played.

 
 
KingMoored

Update: The support staff has responded to my Android app feedback / problem report for this bug and they have passed it over to the developer team to take a look at it. Hopefully a future release of the Android app will address this issue happy.png