Scotch Gambit Trap

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Ziryab

The OP abandoned the thread. It started here.

dougnivek wrote:

This is one of C.com`s Drills, which I have been studying but I cannot see how the start position is achieved. Can someone please take a look and let me know if you can work it out. Thanks.

dougnivek

 

 

Maybe post the diagram here.

1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nf6 3.d4 exd4 4.Bc4 Nc6 5.Ng5 Ne5? (Black should play 5...Nh6)

 

That’s the sum of my knowledge on the Scotch Gambit. Paul Morphy played 5...Nh6 and won a nice miniature.

JamesColeman

Looks like: 1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.d4 exd4 4.Bc4 Bb4+ 5.c3 dxc3 6.bxc3 Be7??

QuantumYankee
dougnivek wrote:

Thanks all for your input. I now reach the conclusion that whilst the start position can be achieved, black is one move behind. Therefore, Chess.com is guilty of creating false exercises.

Don't jump to conclusions, chess.com has never created a false exercise. 
I got the position you gave simply by using the analysis board. 





 

JamesColeman

QuantumYankee - That doesn’t work because it has to be whites move so that he can win material with Qd5, hence the sequence I gave in #5. But yes, it’s not a false exercise. 

There’s a very similar and more well known trap in the Philidor as well. 

Ziryab

I found 121 games with the position. White's score is reasonably strong: 126-7-8. This game is interesting.



QuantumYankee
dougnivek wrote:

This is one of C.com`s Drills, which I have been studying but I cannot see how the start position is achieved. Can someone please take a look and let me know if you can work it out. Thanks.

dougnivek

Look's like zirab found the answer to your question

Ziryab
QuantumYankee wrote:
dougnivek wrote:

This is one of C.com`s Drills, which I have been studying but I cannot see how the start position is achieved. Can someone please take a look and let me know if you can work it out. Thanks.

dougnivek

Look's like Ziryab found the answer to your question

 

I didn't find the answer, James Coleman did. 

JamesColeman wrote:

Looks like: 1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.d4 exd4 4.Bc4 Bb4+ 5.c3 dxc3 6.bxc3 Be7??

 

QuantumYankee
Ziryab wrote:
QuantumYankee wrote:
dougnivek wrote:

This is one of C.com`s Drills, which I have been studying but I cannot see how the start position is achieved. Can someone please take a look and let me know if you can work it out. Thanks.

dougnivek

Look's like Ziryab found the answer to your question

 

I didn't find the answer, James Coleman did. 

JamesColeman wrote:

Looks like: 1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.d4 exd4 4.Bc4 Bb4+ 5.c3 dxc3 6.bxc3 Be7??

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