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Why is chess not at the olympics?
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Thechezzbozz wrote:
they probably won't be happy. I'm unfollowing this thread. I can't believe how many people refuse to believe it
Is this really an article, seriously? A board game is not a sport. Scrabble, trivial pursuit, poker, bridge, bingo, debating.... there is mental skill/acumen involved in all of those things. They are not sports. Neither is chess. Unless you resort to all kinds of convoluted thinking and definitions because you are a complete lunatic that does not want to accept that. Chess requires a lot of skill, mad respect if you are good at it. But that doesn't make you an athlete. Nothing that requires no PHYSICAL skill or athleticism whatsoever, or that Stephen Hawking could play, is a sport.
Jun 15, 2021
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Thechezzbozz wrote:
Yes. Very.
Thechezzbozz wrote:
You might want to go ahead and READ what you posted. that was from a chess club. That is a biased source, but even that biased source admits chess does not fit all the categories for sport. On top of that, they are very wrong on one of their points. Physical exertion. They claim chess has some, at the top level. That is wrong.
As a chess club, they should know the rules of chess. The rules of chess allow a participant to NOT physically participate in any way. If they have a handicap that prevents them from seeing, or hearing, or moving, an assistant is allowed to move for them. If I remember right, a competitor may hit the clock, but is not allowed to move the pieces. Only an assistant can move the pieces. Same for writing down the moves.
Sports do NOT make these allowances. There is no assistant in sports that performs the sports FOR you. In sports, you have to physically do it yourself. In chess, you do not.
Next time read what you post.
I was trying to think of any other "sport" where the competitor, or assistant, is allowed to make your move. Imagine a round of golf, or a basketball game, where the competitor is allowed to make your shot. Do you see any potential problems with that?
patin4 wrote:
Soniasthetics schreef:
patin4 wrote:
Soniasthetics schreef:
It doesn't matter if the IOC recognises it as a sport.
By definition and precedent, it's not a sport.
It is, simply the fact because it require skills.
That's not the definition of a sport, something that requires skill
Because then video games are also a sport. Please actually educate yourself and go do the smallest bit of research and look up what sport actually means.
I actually did that is where i started the discussion. It's a discussion... Oxford Dictionary defines sport as "an activity involving physical exertion and skill in which an individual or a team competes against another or others for entertainment". By the latter definition, hunting does not qualify as a sport because it does not involve competition." That's why i use the word skills, i know chess is not a game or sport that actually for the majority needs certain physical exertion, but.... mentally healthiness and physical healthiness are both needed (you can not play good chess when you are physical not in shape in my opinion, they coordinate with each other) and i say most of what now recognized is as sport are decided by mental aspects, and that is what chess is all about...??
but that's a lie, you can play chess at a very high level and be physically unfit, a classic example is Ben Finegold. He's literally a GM, the highest title you can get in chess, and he's a fat old obese man with a beer belly and 3 chins.
And yet you want to consider chess a sport? you just gave the definition, something that requires physical exertion AND, skill.
All chess requires is mental skill, understanding patterns etc, which is literally identical to video games.
This is why chess is called a board GAME, not a SPORT.
You can't dispute this unless you literally change the definition of sport to:
"Any competitive activity that requires any sort of skill whatsoever"
If you want to change the definition to that, then in that case chess is a sport, but in the definition that YOU literally gave, which is also considered the official definition of sport, chess is NOT, a sport.
You cannot DISPUTE this, it's literally a fricking definition.
Jun 15, 2021
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#309
Yes but how you explain the fact that most of physical sports are decided by mental aspects, what i say it must coordinate, just like in chess. I know thats why i discuss it... Maradonna wasnt that thin, same thing....
no, most physical sports are decided by physical and mental skill.
Like football (soccer) for example. for a team to win, they need to have superior physical skills, like stamina, strength, speed, ball control, but they also need mental skill like team co-ordinating, pass structure, sticking to their positions, etc.
Chess doesn't have that combination. it only requires mental skill.
Jun 15, 2021
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#311
wdym, it takes so much effort to move the pieces! at least if you are playing bullet with life-size pieces
lmao.
This was a debate, but some of yall have kind of made it into an argument. It's not going into the olympics no matter who wins this, so just chill a bit lol
Jun 15, 2021
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BenIBB schreef:
This was a debate, but some of yall have kind of made it into an argument. It's not going into the olympics no matter who wins this, so just chill a bit lol
yes that's the point, it's a chilling subject, lets chill! He is right! :-)
Jun 15, 2021
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BenIBB wrote:
This was a debate, but some of yall have kind of made it into an argument. It's not going into the olympics no matter who wins this, so just chill a bit lol
There isn't any difference between a debate and an argument.
Jun 15, 2021
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BenIBB wrote:
Tristan-Gurjot214 I agree with you although archery definitely does recquire physical strength in some aspects of the game.
Well, in chess you need to be able to move the pieces.
Jun 15, 2021
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#317
lfPatriotGames wrote:
But a mental challenge is not a sport. A sport is a physical challenge. A game is a mental challenge. So a challenging game, that's both mental and physical, is a sport.
For example, doing taxes is a mental challenge. Is that a sport that should be in the Olympics?
That is not the definition of a sport, the definition of a sport is: a particular activity (such as an athletic game) so engaged in, a sport doesn't need to be a physical challenge.
Aug 3, 2021
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#318
Chess is a sport https://www.google.com/search?q=is%20chess%20a%20sport%3F%20what%20is%20ioc%20definition%20of%20sport&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b-m
May 23, 2022
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Santoy wrote:
Chess has its very own Olympiad.
If it was accepted into the Olympics proper, it would enter the floodgates for the likes of Bridge which has also been campaigning for ages that it is more than just a table-top game.
By 2032, we would have bleeding Scrabble players lining up.
If there is no risk of you breaking a bone, it isn't a sport
So table tennis ain't a sport
I sort of agree with this, chess is still a sport, just a mental challenge rather than physical, different to other olympic sports which are physically challenging. @AunTheKnight
yay, chess is a sport. There is little physical involved but it still counts
Since you haven't explained how sports can be played without using any muscles, then your claim about chess being a sport is not believable. It sounds like you are just making it up, and don't really believe it yourself.
Chess doesn't requires physical skill. But you say it does because it's a sport. So explain that. If you can't, then we will have to assume you are either being deceptive or don't really believe it.
Sports require skill, not physical skill.
Well if you have a hard time with the word skill, how about the word muscle. Do you know what a muscle is, what it does, and how it relates to body movement?
Look, I just pointed out that the definition says skill. “Physical exertion and skill.”
Yes. Not that hard to understand. But lets say you are still having a hard time with it. Lets just focus on the physical exertion part. Chess requires ZERO physical exertion (but a lot of mental exertion). The FIDE rulebook makes allowances for people who cannot see, cannot use any muscles, or have other disabilities that would affect their play. Sports do not have that.
If chess is a sport, can you explain how it's the ONLY one where you don't have to actually physically participate? Doesn't that seem a bit odd to you?