Get a new hyper bullet rating system

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BabyCow73

I would like to propose getting a new hyper bullet rating system, so the players that like 10sec can play and have a real rating change like 8. But also the players that complain about 10sec won't have to deal with opponents that just flag. I made a much more in depth explanation, but it somehow got deleted so I just have to go with this. Mods, chess.com staff, please take this into consideration, I think it is a valid point that would alleviate pressure and fighting, and I do not think it would be too hard to add. Discuss. More details coming soon.

ShadowCellen

I didn’t get your point.  Can you explain it again?

BabyCow73
ShadowCellen wrote:

I didn’t get your point.  Can you explain it again?

cmon bro do you agree or not stop messing with me

canadian_rt
I don’t either, could you possible fix some punctuation and rephrase some things. Especially the first half of this post
Ilampozhil25

ok i get it

the rating system is dependant on the no of games played

and if thats high, rating change is less

but because its 10 sec

no change is done because of the high game count

so its +4 a game because so many games are played because its 10 sec so this needs to be fixed

 

understood, maybe glicko is not suit for this stuff(i think that no of games should become no of mins played or something like that)

InsertInterestingNameHere

ok but classical rating system

ShadowCellen
BabyCow73 wrote:
ShadowCellen wrote:

I didn’t get your point.  Can you explain it again?

cmon bro do you agree or not stop messing with me

The “Get a new hyper bullet rating system so the players that like 10sec can play and have a real rating change like 8 or whatever” part doesn’t makes sense for me. 

Steven-ODonoghue
ShadowCellen wrote:
BabyCow73 wrote:
ShadowCellen wrote:

I didn’t get your point.  Can you explain it again?

cmon bro do you agree or not stop messing with me

The “Get a new hyper bullet rating system so the players that like 10sec can play and have a real rating change like 8 or whatever” part doesn’t makes sense for me. 

In regular time controls you gain 8 rating points for beating someone of a similar rating.

In 10 second chess you only gain 1. This is to prevent people from easily getting high bullet ratings by playing only 10 second chess. OP wants a serperate rating category for 10 second chess so that his rating will go up and down by 8 instead of 1.

BabyCow73
canadian_rt wrote:
I don’t either, could you possible fix some punctuation and rephrase some things. Especially the first half of this post

Done

ShadowCellen
Steven-ODonoghue wrote:
ShadowCellen wrote:
BabyCow73 wrote:
ShadowCellen wrote:

I didn’t get your point.  Can you explain it again?

cmon bro do you agree or not stop messing with me

The “Get a new hyper bullet rating system so the players that like 10sec can play and have a real rating change like 8 or whatever” part doesn’t makes sense for me. 

In regular time controls you gain 8 rating points for beating someone of a similar rating.

In 10 second chess you only gain 1. This is to prevent people from easily getting high bullet ratings by playing only 10 second chess. OP wants a serperate rating category for 10 second chess so that his rating will go up and down by 8 instead of 1.

Oh thanks this explains better

llama51

You don't understand. It's really hard to program a website to have different rating categories. Like... practically impossible. Not even the best programm--

What? Yeah, lichess has hyperbullet. Yeah, they're unpaid volunteers.

Ilampozhil25
Steven-ODonoghue wrote:
ShadowCellen wrote:
BabyCow73 wrote:
ShadowCellen wrote:

I didn’t get your point.  Can you explain it again?

cmon bro do you agree or not stop messing with me

The “Get a new hyper bullet rating system so the players that like 10sec can play and have a real rating change like 8 or whatever” part doesn’t makes sense for me. 

In regular time controls you gain 8 rating points for beating someone of a similar rating.

In 10 second chess you only gain 1. This is to prevent people from easily getting high bullet ratings by playing only 10 second chess. OP wants a serperate rating category for 10 second chess so that his rating will go up and down by 8 instead of 1.

no...........................................

thats not the reason

the reason is because 10 sec players play a lot more GAMES

and thus its 1

giving it its own category will do NOTHING to avert this

llama51

@babycow73 has a bullet RD of 14.

Sure that's super low, but they gained 7 points for their last win.

Steven-ODonoghue
Ilampozhil25 wrote:

no...........................................

thats not the reason

the reason is because 10 sec players play a lot more GAMES

and thus its 1

giving it its own category will do NOTHING to avert this

No, with a stable RD you will gain only 1 point for beating a similar opponent in 10 second chess. In regular time controls you gain 8, it doesn't matter how many games you play or how low the RD gets, 8 is the minimum you will gain after a victory over a similarly rated opponent.

llama51

Oh, so 10 second is different from 30 second? I didn't know that.

Steven-ODonoghue
llama51 wrote:

Oh, so 10 second is different from 30 second? I didn't know that.

Yeah 30 second is the same as everything else (+/- 8 points), and IIRC 15 and 20 second chess is somewhere in between.

I only lost 2 rating points here even though my opponent was lower rated than me (15 second)

https://www.chess.com/game/live/42353958239

ninjaswat

Tbh if hyper would get a new rating people would clamour for a classical rating which is apparently a change in the works. Since that's been happening for months not much hope here.