Greed and Chess

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Vance917

Well, we both like soccer and chess, right?

Streptomicin

Yeeee, but thing is, now that I know you are Giants fan, I just cant hold it, I just wish to insult you. Since I do not know any better way, are you in the mood for game of chess?

Vance917

I know that I will regret this!

Streptomicin

Fly eagles fly, what? Do you play PES, Fifa, or real life soccer?

uritbon

greed should be distinguished with courage... the problem is that you can't tell which is which untill you take the piece...

Vance917

Real soccer.  Midfield.  You?

Streptomicin

Goalkeeper, since I could break my leg, or even worse my spine if I would ever try to drible... Me and the soccer ball are not best friends. My face on the other hand seems to love soccer ball very much. Why did you say you would regret playing with me?

Vance917

I am not nearly as good as my score would seem to indicate.  Getting back to greed, I go through phases of greed and purging, as in holding off making moves in games I am destined to lose so that I can hopefully get a new highest score (my greedy phase), and then I go ahead and lose my lost games all at once (my purging phase).  Almost like Joseph and the seven good years and seven bad years.  Anyway, now I am holding off losing the tons of games that I am about to lose.  Once I do, you will have a much more relaistic view of what my rating should be.

bs_liyan

Does this really matter? Just play the game... lol?

Vance917

It matters to me at certain times, but not at other times.  I guess we all have our moods, right?

victhestick

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     could traps exist in chess, without greed?

Streptomicin

traps yes, but greed is taking pieces without thinking about consequences.

victhestick
Streptomicin wrote:

traps yes, but greed is taking pieces without thinking about consequences.


     not necessarily.  although greed could be a material collector - greed

     is an impulse that can be toyed with and exploited by an opponent.

     if the trap is forced there is no choice, but a player that does not play

     to collect material can be caught in a "greedy" moment.

Vance917

Did you read my post?  Greed and stupidity are two different things.

victhestick

     so stupidity can not be motivated by greed?

Vance917

Maybe.  But even if so, the cause of losing material, and perhaps the game, would be the stupidity.  I guess you will argue that stupidity is the proximal cause, and greed is the root cause?

ChessMobb

Go EAGLES!

Vance917

Oh no, not another one!  And right here in Montgomery County, too.  But funny that neither one of us is a Redskins fan!

victhestick
Vance917 wrote:

Maybe.  But even if so, the cause of losing material, and perhaps the game, would be the stupidity.  I guess you will argue that stupidity is the proximal cause, and greed is the root cause?


     no, stupidity can stand on it's own.

     just want to make the point that greed can cause stupidity, and in

         such cases it is the root.  greed can also produce a winning position,

         which feeds the behavior and develops a greedy player.

Maradonna

Vince you should try and reach a zen like calm before choosing your move - eliminate all thoughts of Greed, Angry, Fear, Horneyness and make the move that's within your chi.