Hans Niemann latest performance

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Elroch
Kshipra123 wrote:

I remember when you made it to be #1 without winning a single game. you can call me mental or extremely sensitive. something about you deeply scares me!

Your timidity is not my responsibility. "Remembering" things that never happened even after being advised about your "mistake" is a sign of mental problems - I suggest you seek professional help.

Here is the win that got me to a (frankly) flattering 2568, and the previous more decisive, simultaneous game. My opponent is currently active and ranked #54 on chess.com, with a rating close to my own.

Kshipra123
Elroch wrote:
Kshipra123 wrote:

I remember when you made it to be #1 without winning a single game. you can call me mental or extremely sensitive. something about you deeply scares me!

Your timidity is not my responsibility. "Remembering" things that never happened even after being advised about your "mistake" is a sign of mental problems - I suggest you seek professional help.

Here are the two wins that got me to a (frankly) flattering 2568, and the simultaneous one that was more decisive. My opponent is currently active and ranked #54 on chess.com, with a rating close to my own.

 

You are confusing the recognition of real danger with timidity.

There are plenty of sharp mathematicians in this community. it is up to them to expose, or protect you now. calculating how many of these 2568 points were given to you for surrendering cheaters is just one way to show your manipulative responses. may the force be with you!

DiogenesDue
Kshipra123 wrote:

You are confusing the recognition of real danger with timidity.

There are plenty of sharp mathematicians in this community. it is up to them to expose, or protect you now. calculating how many of these 2568 points were given to you for surrendering cheaters is just one way to show your manipulative responses. may the force be with you!

You're not a very good scientist. You seem to be pointing out how many cheaters reach the top tiers of tournaments and are paired with the top players before getting caught...which seems like a fairly obvious conclusion. If you can't prove cause and effect, making a claim of malfeasance based on your personal assumptions is pretty ridiculous.

Vertwitch
ProCheaters
Elroch

Let's be clear - I totally agree with Kshipra123 that my peak rating was boosted by the combination of cheaters getting banned and the very high maximum RD in the chess.com Glicko calculation. But it's much like when your opponent leaves their queen en prise - something you welcome and take advantage of rather than have under control.
I'll also point out that it's a pain playing daily players in the 2400s and 2500s - they are way too precise. happy.png Except for the cheaters who got banned, I think my score against such players amounts to 4 draws and 4 losses.

Kshipra123

most appreciated love.

lfPatriotGames
alexlehrersh wrote:
lfPatriotGames hat geschrieben:

I'm a little confused about the rating thing. If Hans is playing lower rated players, wouldn't it be likely his rating would increase because of more wins?

I dont know if it changed but or if elo is different calculated than dzw.

In an open tournament were he is first or second seeded his rating changes will calculated over hat points he made and what points he should have maded which is calulated over the meian of all oponents he has faced

So if he is eg 2680 and had an median of 2300 then the points he should have made ovet 7 rounds are 6.44 So six wins and one draw will make him gain maybe points of 3 ELO and winning all games will give 13. But i worst case if he woull losse the last game then he is 10 in the minus and if he onlymakes 5.5 it is 23 in the minus.

The numbers are not exact by me but that is pretty mutch the progress in dwz

It seems like you are saying it's a little bit like chess.com puzzles. The losses are penalized much more than the wins are rewarded. Is that about right?

Ziryab
lfPatriotGames wrote:
alexlehrersh wrote:
lfPatriotGames hat geschrieben:

I'm a little confused about the rating thing. If Hans is playing lower rated players, wouldn't it be likely his rating would increase because of more wins?

I dont know if it changed but or if elo is different calculated than dzw.

In an open tournament were he is first or second seeded his rating changes will calculated over hat points he made and what points he should have maded which is calulated over the meian of all oponents he has faced

So if he is eg 2680 and had an median of 2300 then the points he should have made ovet 7 rounds are 6.44 So six wins and one draw will make him gain maybe points of 3 ELO and winning all games will give 13. But i worst case if he woull losse the last game then he is 10 in the minus and if he onlymakes 5.5 it is 23 in the minus.

The numbers are not exact by me but that is pretty mutch the progress in dwz

It seems like you are saying it's a little bit like chess.com puzzles. The losses are penalized much more than the wins are rewarded. Is that about right?

That’s how the rating system works. Elo and Glicko are consistent in that regard. Puzzles and games use the same rating system. The puzzles are also rated using the system, which helps account for some very easy puzzles sometimes being rated high. There is something in the puzzle that provokes frequent failure.

Elroch

Yes, it's best thought of not as whether a puzzle is easy, it's about the stats of what happens. An easy win with an attractive looking alternative move that 50% of people play can be rated high.

Elroch

Anyone who hasn't seen episode 4 of season 16 of "It's always sunny in Philadelphia" needs to do so! If you do you'll know why I am posting that here.

Elroch

It's just a really funny episode. Lighten up.

DiogenesDue
GBTGBA wrote:

You have an unhealthy obsession just like your stupid country man piers Morgan.

That's pretty rich coming from you...does Hans ever reply to your fan mail?

Laskersnephew

Obviously, Hans is a strong player. There has never been any doubt about that. But how strong? That's been the question. I think a year of non-stop competing has made him stronger than he used to be, although it hasn't done his rating any favors. We can safely say that he's a strong (top 100) GM, but not yet in the world elite.

Wolfordwv1968

Hans on fire as of late

WCPetrosian

Hans won a recent tournament by 3 points ahead of the field with a performance rating in the 2900s, the highest performance rating in 2023 by anyone. They were using a 45minute broadcast delay. There is speculation that he has found a way to cheat despite the delay. There is also speculation that at only the age of 20 he is a real deal super prodigy. Everyone will take sides, but no one can know for sure one way or the other. What a mess huh.

WCPetrosian

Hans drew with Black today in round 1 of the London Classic against someone rated in the lower 2600s. SF indicates both played a near perfect game. Much of it was book and the rest of the game was rather easy to play for GMS.

RopemakerStreet

Apparently there was a sever lack of Anti Cheat detection measures in place at this tournament as cited by Ivan Cheparinov, broadcast delays were initially 15 minutes then increased, incidentally, Ivan Cheparinov was banned by chess.com at one point as well.

Laskersnephew

"There is also speculation that at only the age of 20 he is a real deal super prodigy. "

Well, he just scored 50% in the US Championship, a good, but not spectacular result. Prior to that, he scored 6/11 at the Grand Swiss tournament, Another good, but not earth shaking result. He is a very strong young player with a promising future, but these results do not shout "super prodigy"

premio53

Are any spots still available for Niemann to play in the Candidates Tournament next year?

Ziryab
RopemakerStreet wrote:

Apparently there was a sever lack of Anti Cheat detection measures in place at this tournament as cited by Ivan Cheparinov, broadcast delays were initially 15 minutes then increased, incidentally, Ivan Cheparinov was banned by chess.com at one point as well.

Cheparinov also refused to shake Kramnik’s hand after the shameful accusations by his buddy Topalov. I lost respect for him then, as I am losing my decades long respect for Kramnik now.