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Has Chess.com ever had a worse idea than Vacations?
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royalbishop wrote:
There was a thread like this 3 months ago.
A player can win by going on vacation if they are losing. It is cheap. In that thread started some serious talk. As the player said he did it as he still had a chance to win. He mentioned the option that his opponent may give up, resign or time out. He also said he won some games this way.
Yeah well i wanted him to stop giving new players that like to use cheap methods win ideas. This got worse as another player was campaigning for a similar issue and it went from thread to thread that had a similar topic.
I am not here to argue. If you do not believe me then ok. We can move on. I am not going to change my view as i know what i experienced and your not going to change your view as you do not believe me.
Oh.
Yeah, I can win by tossing my pencil up in the air. it is possible, while the pencil is in the air, that my opponent may give up, time out, or resign.
This is like the world's dumbest thread. I feel my IQ points draining away...slowly...and I don't have that many left anyway....
bigpoison wrote:
Who are you talking to?
All the members he is intent on mentioning that might (in his mind) hang on his every word.
Btw, did you know he is an admin of many groups?!
bigpoison wrote:
Who are you talking to?
Mar 28, 2013
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royalbishop wrote:
As for Tournaments - No Vacation at all.
By that statement alone, you have proved beyond any possible doubt that you literally have no idea what the hell you are talking about at all. Your statement is so ridiculous it would make any tournament with even 3day/mvoe completely unplayable.
Good day, Sir.
MathBandit wrote:
royalbishop wrote:
As for Tournaments - No Vacation at all.
By that statement alone, you have proved beyond any possible doubt that you literally have no idea what the hell you are talking about at all. Your statement is so ridiculous it would make any tournament with even 3day/mvoe completely unplayable.
Good day, Sir.
I don't agree with royalbishop, but to say that not allowing vacations in tournaments would make them 'completely unplayable' is rubbish. They exist, and people play them.
Alas poor Yorick, I knew him.
Mar 28, 2013
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Genghiskhant wrote:
MathBandit wrote:
royalbishop wrote:
As for Tournaments - No Vacation at all.
By that statement alone, you have proved beyond any possible doubt that you literally have no idea what the hell you are talking about at all. Your statement is so ridiculous it would make any tournament with even 3day/mvoe completely unplayable.
Good day, Sir.
I don't agree with royalbishop, but to say that not allowing vacations in tournaments would make them 'completely unplayable' is rubbish. They exist, and people play them.
Fine. "Completely unplayable to anyone who can't commit to 1-2+ years of never leaving town for so much as a weekend." I don't actually believe there is anyone on this site who can honestly make such a commitment.
MathBandit wrote:
royalbishop wrote:
As for Tournaments - No Vacation at all.
By that statement alone, you have proved beyond any possible doubt that you literally have no idea what the hell you are talking about at all. Your statement is so ridiculous it would make any tournament with even 3day/mvoe completely unplayable.
Good day, Sir.
As for Tournaments - No Vacation at all. I had no input on this decision as it was talked about in many top groups and the majority came to this decision which was about 2 yrs now maybe short 3 months.
@MathBandit it is clear your not linked with community and have no idea what your talking about. Before they had all these players join from facebook some of the major issues were fixed were brought up by the Veteran players here (they have a group). The issues they did not need chess.com to resolve they resolved them. Since some new players have arrived they have been a bit more silent the last couple months.
Yes Vacation time in some tournaments(few) was unplayable. It took a while and much complaining to come to a resolution. Your just enjoying the results of their labor to resolve it. I joined the campaign for No Vacation tournaments as 3 days is more than enought to make a move.
Players did complain about no vacation. The response was do not enter the No Vacation tournaments as players want to finish and not have it drag to a year and only few enter it. I even heard a case in this thread where a tournament went 3 years. Not sure on number of players or days per move but in any case that is outrageous.
I am all in favor of allowing "no vacation" tournments, for such people as want to play in those. I do not want to force every tournament to be vacation.
I just would never again sign up for a no vacation tournament at 3 days or less.
You wouldn't think you could talk a court jester to death.
Mar 28, 2013
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#234
royalbishop wrote:
MathBandit wrote:
royalbishop wrote:
As for Tournaments - No Vacation at all.
By that statement alone, you have proved beyond any possible doubt that you literally have no idea what the hell you are talking about at all. Your statement is so ridiculous it would make any tournament with even 3day/mvoe completely unplayable.
Good day, Sir.
As for Tournaments - No Vacation at all. I had no input on this decision as it was talked about in many top groups and the majority came to this decision which was about 2 yrs now maybe short 3 months.
@MathBandit it is clear your not linked with community and have no idea what your talking about. Before they had all these players join from facebook some of the major issues were fixed were brought up by the Veteran players here (they have a group). The issues they did not need chess.com to resolve they resolved them. Since some new players have arrived they have been a bit more silent the last couple months.
Yes Vacation time in some tournaments(few) was unplayable. It took a while and much complaining to come to a resolution. Your just enjoying the results of their labor to resolve it. I joined the campaign for No Vacation tournaments as 3 days is more than enought to make a move.
Players did complain about no vacation. The response was do not enter the No Vacation tournaments as players want to finish and not have it drag to a year and only few enter it. I even heard a case in this thread where a tournament went 3 years. Not sure on number of players or days per move but in any case that is outrageous.
3 years for a tournament isn't actually outrageous at all, if you do the math. I showed earlier in this very thread that a low estimate for the time it should take to finish a 5-person round-robin with simultaneous games and 3days/move is 4-6 months if not a single person takes a single vacation day. Multiply that out by 5-6 rounds, and you're up to 2-3 years. Consecutive instead of simultaneous? Add another year or two. 5days/move instead of 3? Add another year or two.
If you join a No-Vacation tournament with 3days/move, you are commiting to never being without internet access for so much as a single weekend for the next 2-3 years of your life. I will repeat that I don't think there is a person on this site who can honestly make that commitment.
MathBandit wrote:
Genghiskhant wrote:
MathBandit wrote:
royalbishop wrote:
As for Tournaments - No Vacation at all.
By that statement alone, you have proved beyond any possible doubt that you literally have no idea what the hell you are talking about at all. Your statement is so ridiculous it would make any tournament with even 3day/mvoe completely unplayable.
Good day, Sir.
I don't agree with royalbishop, but to say that not allowing vacations in tournaments would make them 'completely unplayable' is rubbish. They exist, and people play them.
Fine. "Completely unplayable to anyone who can't commit to 1-2+ years of never leaving town for so much as a weekend." I don't actually believe there is anyone on this site who can honestly make such a commitment.
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Apart from all the people who play them on this site you mean?
varelse1 wrote:
Only this time. Because my opponent ran ourt of vacation time, or just gave up to troll somebody else.
But this bug has many possible simple fixes, which have suggested on this forum alone, which will not in any way inconvenience the honest (majority) pawn pushers of chess.com, who use their vacation time legitimatly, without abusing it.
As a Mult Media Web Desisner i do not see it as a bug. I think it was found by trial and error. The Tech staff has so many things to work on here so they may have thought nobody would use it that way. At the same time they could think it is an issue they could resolve easily if used by unfair methods.
They could reduce the members that have issues with it by just having the time when the game would resume viewable to both players. While waiting for the game to start and opponent to make a move you have options. Versus the unknown of not knowing when the game will resume.
Mar 28, 2013
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#237
Genghiskhant wrote:
MathBandit wrote:
Genghiskhant wrote:
MathBandit wrote:
royalbishop wrote:
As for Tournaments - No Vacation at all.
By that statement alone, you have proved beyond any possible doubt that you literally have no idea what the hell you are talking about at all. Your statement is so ridiculous it would make any tournament with even 3day/mvoe completely unplayable.
Good day, Sir.
I don't agree with royalbishop, but to say that not allowing vacations in tournaments would make them 'completely unplayable' is rubbish. They exist, and people play them.
Fine. "Completely unplayable to anyone who can't commit to 1-2+ years of never leaving town for so much as a weekend." I don't actually believe there is anyone on this site who can honestly make such a commitment.
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Apart from all the people who play them on this site you mean?
No, I don't mean that. There are an awful lot of people on this site who I'm sure are signing up for tournaments that will last far longer than they realize, and who don't understand the commitment they are making. Heck, I'm sure many of the people joining No Vacation tournaments are still at a point in their life where they could be grounded, and time out automatically.
3 years for a tournament! maybe yorick would enjoy that.
Yeah, while I am happy that there is an option, "no vacation" tournaments are just bad.
I found out the hard way when I join and just signed up for tournaments without reading the fine print. Then, I went to our yearly vacation in the middle of Louisiana with no internet access for a week. I clicked on "vacation" and saw some games still active.
Uh Oh.
Thats when I found out that, yes, barbarically, some tournaments are "no vacation".
Now i believe Vacation should be broken down to types and the type used should be visible to all players. Along with predetermined time as the player will know when the games resume.
As for Tournaments - No Vacation at all.
Now Team Matches is a tough one. Members need to go to their Admin if a person is abusing this Vacation option. As an Admin i warned the other Admin about their player using this vacation to their advantage and reported back to the members of my group that this issue should not come up in the future. Plus i am working on having that player come back and finish the game unless they have a real reason for using that vacation. In which case the info will given and isssue resolved. I can remember a time where i had to threaten the other Admin by accepting challenges if their players abused the Vacation option. I may sound like a jerk but i am very protective of my players in my group.
In Open Seeks, well it is what it is. Play some unrated games till they come back or play live games till they come back.