Have you tried playing games other then bullet chess which to me is a waste of time if you are a chess player. You just might run into a better clientele of chess players. And If they abort, you win right?
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Im rated about 1700 FIDE (hopefully going up). Here on the site, I only play someone the same rating as me, someone up to 200 higher than me, and someone 50 under me. I dont like to play someone not as good as me, as i dont learn anything. But I like to play someone a little better than me, because then I can learn from my mistakes. You dont learn anything, (and its not funny either) to completely destroy or get completely detroyed.
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See this is the thing i dont know what you guys are talking about saying bullet isnt chess but thats really the only way to ensure online that someone isnt using a chess engine to play for them when you have 3 or 4 minute games they can defeat you with one and thats not right. Also, you can learn a whole lot from playing way lower people than you because they make moves that you have never seen so it can give you more and more to work on. I play any and everybody. I just played someone who was 2023 and defeated them and i have also played someone 531 so i have no restrictions on who i play and who plays me. When i earn my GM Title im not going to be one of those GMs who turn down anyone because i believe i am better than them. Moreover, you cant call yourself the best in the world if there is someone who can defeat you!
to answer your question, it's likely twofold.
one, they are definitely afraid of losing, and losing a bunch of points, but
two, they are also probably just wanting a higher quality game, although at 1400, haha...
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And that doesnt make any sense to me. how can you say you have earned whatever rating you have if there is someone who is hundreds of points lower than you that can beat you? And no bullet chess isnt on chance at all wow i cant believe someone would say that. The thing with bullet chess is you have to know the games better and deeper than the other person. you wont have to think and you can just play but you try and play the game like its a game of chance and you will horribly lose. Like i said before i play anyone and my rating is very earned. I have played people twice my rating as well as twice as low it doesnt matter who you are ill give you a chance to play me
It is entirely your opponent's fault if it has anything to do with rating, because it is so easy to filter it on the challenging options; it is also easy not to click on dots that are "low" on the challenge board.
Why bullet is not chess:
Internet connection problems transfer this delightful strategy game into a game of chance.
However, I will consider OTB bullet a kind of chess.
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yeah well if you have internet problems maybe online chess might not be the right thing for you then haha. But i have lost a few games due to connectivity however i have also won games due to that too so i feel like they cancel each other out. Chess is chess it doesnt matter if you play 1 minute or 1 hour if you know chess then you will know it no matter what the time is
My question is, how do you know they're aborting because you're lower rated? A lot of people abort games because they don't want to play black. And some people abort games for who knows why?
frrixz wrote:
Why bullet is not chess:
Internet connection problems transfer this delightful strategy game into a game of chance.
However, I will consider OTB bullet a kind of chess.
+1.
Bullet with a 1-5 second time delay => Starts to actually resemble chess as race-condition cheapos and loony opening moves will stop working against decent players.
As an experiment: If you want to see how strong your chess really is at fast time controls (such as those in bullet/blitz), throw in a time delay and see if that lofty rating of yours can stay where it is :)
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Godspawn wrote:
GMLoveJr wrote:
See this is the thing i dont know what you guys are talking about saying bullet isnt chess but thats really the only way to ensure online that someone isnt using a chess engine to play for them when you have 3 or 4 minute games they can defeat you with one and thats not right. Also, you can learn a whole lot from playing way lower people than you because they make moves that you have never seen so it can give you more and more to work on. I play any and everybody. I just played someone who was 2023 and defeated them and i have also played someone 531 so i have no restrictions on who i play and who plays me. When i earn my GM Title im not going to be one of those GMs who turn down anyone because i believe i am better than them. Moreover, you cant call yourself the best in the world if there is someone who can defeat you!
You said in your initial post that youre not afraid to play anyone, as you learn from the losses. So why not play longer games with someone using a chess engine?
Why would i play any games with anyone using a chess engine? That would be cheating! I study and analyze the games i play to see where i messed up and where i can make a better move thats how i get better not by beating the crap out of someone by playing what a chess engine tells me to play.
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N2UHC wrote:
My question is, how do you know they're aborting because you're lower rated? A lot of people abort games because they don't want to play black. And some people abort games for who knows why?
When you have played as many games as i have you start to see that the majority of people arent aborting games due to color. Its the rating.
I think there is some correlation between chess skill and bullet chess skill. As I've seen my skill at online chess improve over the last month or so, I've seen a simultaneous (and for whatever reason much steeper) rise in my bullet chess rating.
Edited to Add: I intend that to be read as evidence that bullet chess is indeed a type of chess--skills very specific to the one translate directly into skills very specific to the other.
Simple ...
The point loss for the higher rated player is much greater than it is for the lower rated player and that's because the higher rated player is expected to win. If he or she can't win, then the computer figures that the higher rated player must be at a lower level and a point loss can be as small as 6-9 points for even rated players, or as big of a loss as 25 points or more against a much lower rated player. Those with higher rated players risk one or all of the following: a.) they make a mistake, b.) their opponent has a lucky break, c.) disconnection. All of those are detrimental to the higher rated player and are factors that the lower rated player does not face. Higher rated players abort to prevent a high ratings loss.
RANDOM PAIRING would dismiss this as it is the closest pairing system to OTB pairing, otherwise known as Over the Board or, live chess play and whomever you are paired against, you MUST PLAY or else your game is given as a "By" to your opponent and you suffer a loss.
In OTB tournaments, players are separated into classes so that the A's play the A's and the B's play the B's and so on ... or something similar, you get the idea ... but regardless of the class, the pairing and the color are chosen at random by the Tournament Director so no one ever knows if they are playing as Black or as White or against whom until the bracket system is posted and the pairings are set in stone.
You won't find RANDOM PAIRING here but you can sure have a lot of fun and play some great games with those opponents who are willing to play against you.
Sorry for the "chapter" but I type over 75 wpm.
Peace
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dalephilly wrote:
You've played almost 2,000 games, and make very basic errors in most of them. If your actual goal is to keep improving as a chess player, I would suggest to you that you play games with slightly longer time controls. I can assure you that the overwhelming majority of players at my rating level do NOT use chess engines (even in my turn-based games at 3 days/move!) simply because, if the person did, they would be rated MUCH higher. In virtually all of the computer analyses of my games, both my opponent and myself made a number of moves the computer disagreed with; if they cheated, the computer would like pretty much all of their moves!
I am bringing this up only because you stated that people cheat on longer time control games. That can be a problem at very high rating levels, but not at mine or yours. And as you improve, and your rating goes up, you'll get to play higher level players much more frequently. I personally don't tend to abort game challenges from lower rated players, however I can tell you that, if they are rated a few hundred points below me, I rarely get an enjoyable game out of it. I almost always win those games because my opponent just drops pieces for nothing, which isn't a fun way to win at all (at least to me). So I can understand why some people do abort those games.
I agree with and disagree with some stuff you have said but i respect your opinion and where you stand on things. If you still think i make basic errors in games why dont you look at my last 10 games i have played. All Blitz games. Im about to play much more right now so look at my last 20-30 id say.
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I have a question for anyone who is rated a few hundred points higher than someone who is trying to play them. Me for example i am rated about 1050 in bullet games and i find that when i am matched up against some people in their 1300s and 1400s and even 1200s they abort the game so my question is why is that? Do you refuse to play someone much lower than yourself because you are afraid of losing? Or you think its a waste of time? What are some of the reasons why you wouldnt play a much lower rated person? I personally will play anyone who i am matched up against from the lowest rated person on the sit to the highest rated person on the site and am not afraid to play anyone or take a loss because i will learn from that