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How did I get a Diamond Membership?
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Sep 1, 2022
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#24
ThePretzelAddict wrote:
They should just give new accounts a week of diamond so they can try out the features. I can never understand why sites hide the fruits of their labor. There is a competing site (not the free one) which has terrible chess interfaces, and that is why I am here and not there. I am 10% likely to pay for their services, but with chess.com it is 50/50.
If that happened, there would be members creating new accounts every week for free diamond.
Sep 1, 2022
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#25
ThePretzelAddict wrote:
And there would also be paying members who wanted to keep the same account alive and continue using the paid services. Are you saying the paid services are not worth it?
Yes, anyone can test drive a car, but you have to pay to keep it. Cars are still sold.
The services are worth it if a member gets a benefit out of it. In your analogy, someone isn't test driving a car for a week, returning it, and then test driving another car for a week either. 
ThePretzelAddict wrote:
Martin_Stahl wrote:
ThePretzelAddict wrote:
They should just give new accounts a week of diamond so they can try out the features. I can never understand why sites hide the fruits of their labor. There is a competing site (not the free one) which has terrible chess interfaces, and that is why I am here and not there. I am 10% likely to pay for their services, but with chess.com it is 50/50.
If that happened, there would be members creating new accounts every week for free diamond.
And there would also be paying members who wanted to keep the same account alive and continue using the paid services. Are you saying the paid services are not worth it?
Yes, anyone can test drive a car, but you have to pay to keep it. Cars are still sold.
Somebody is good with logical fallacies
The difference in that analogy to the chess memberships example is that there is no prolonged benefit to test driving a car over and over again, in our example test driving a diamond membership for a week over and over again is beneficial as you don't have to pay to use the service and get use out of it. You don't test drive a car to benefit more than once and its to verify that the product is to your liking. A better counter argument would be the approach of somehow justifying the cost of developing a way to prevent an abuse of the system in such a way in the first place.
Sep 1, 2022
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#28
ThePretzelAddict wrote:
They are also not OTB playing chess on this site. What is your point? I would spend MONTHS researching a car online before going for a test drive. You missed my analogy completely.
You could spend months researching what the site has to offer as well, testing pretty much everything as a basic member, then test drive once with a trial membership.
That's completely different than giving automatic week-long memberships to new accounts with no way to prevent unlimited use of it.
Sep 1, 2022
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#29
ThePretzelAddict wrote
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I have yet to see 1 free lesson on the Ruy Lopez. I have yet to see 1 free endgame puzzle from Dvoretsky book. I have yet to see a Game Review which compares my play to a master game to show where I screwed up. This might be a feature not available yet, but to have a cartoon figure tell me "You blundered" is unnecessary. It wouldn't be that hard to present a couple master games which are the same. If you messed up on move 5, then they would show what the masters did. Same if the move was 10, etc...
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After a few moves on most games, you're going to be in a game that's probably never been played before and certainly not by a master level player. The site already shows when book was left and there are plans to increase how many book moves there are based on theory.
They also can't directly copy another person's work, such as something from Dvoretsky, without a license to use it. As to lessons, they pay people to make lessons and you're not going to find free ones for every particular opening or other types of lessons
You can do a lot on site for free. There are three tiers of premium, along with trials, so members have options. And the premium plans for new members have more features than the old, especially at the lower tiers. The new Gold plan has unlimited tactics, unlimited lessons, and videos (which used to be diamond only).
If you don't think that has value, you don't have to get premium.
Sep 1, 2022
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#30
You can try pretty much every single feature on site as a basic member, just not without some limitations. Or you can get a trial and test without limits for a week.
Sep 1, 2022
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#31
ThePretzelAddict wrote:
Martin_Stahl wrote:
Or you can get a trial and test without limits for a week.
Why not do that from the beginning? If it is worth it, people would pay for it. It makes no sense to hide the fruits of your labor.
Again, if every new account had a week premium with nothing more than creating an account, serial account creators could get unlimited premium.
Not sure how that makes any business sense for a subscription based service. Every premium type subscription model I know of has a trial based method that requires a payment method to prevent serial trials. But the site also has a free option that includes access to pretty much everything on premium, with some limitations.
Sep 1, 2022
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#32
ThePretzelAddict wrote:
"Every premium type subscription model I know of has a trial based method that requires a payment method to prevent serial trials."
You could do the same thing that you are fearing by getting a prepaid debit card and then canceling before the charge. If the charge is taken out and then refunded, then how would you know NOT to refund?
I don't know specifically how it's done, but using the same card on multiple accounts, when it comes to trials, is probably not possible.
Sep 1, 2022
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#33
I can't imagine that many people going through that kind of effort for that. And something else, prepaid cards likely won't work for trials, since it's set up as a recurring subscription and many (most?) won't support that option
Sep 1, 2022
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#35
ThePretzelAddict wrote:
It only takes 1 person with multiple debit cards.
You mentioned pre-paid debit cards, so that's why I mentioned that limitation. Also, it's probably not widespread, even if it works.
Sep 2, 2022
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#36
Martin_Stahl wrote:
ThePretzelAddict wrote:
It only takes 1 person with multiple debit cards.
You mentioned pre-paid debit cards, so that's why I mentioned that limitation. Also, it's probably not widespread, even if it works.
I admire your patience in dealing with a provocative edgelord doubling down on a triviality over multiple posts. You're a good moderator, I would have banned them for that last comment.
I'm playing chess using the app only, I don't participate in tournaments in my country, but if only from playing the app I reached a qualified rate like 2300 for NM, would I get a diamond membership 💎 without doing a thing or paying anything ?
Please help
Bshara_real wrote:
I'm playing chess using the app only, I don't participate in tournaments in my country, but if only from playing the app I reached a qualified rate like 2300 for NM, would I get a diamond membership 💎 without doing a thing or paying anything ?
Please help
You are confusing real chess ratings with online chess.com ratings. In order to get a master title, you need to reach a rating by FIDE or by your country at OTB chess. And some countries don't even give master titles at all.
If you reach 2300 on chess.com, nothing happens.
magipi wrote:
Bshara_real wrote:
I'm playing chess using the app only, I don't participate in tournaments in my country, but if only from playing the app I reached a qualified rate like 2300 for NM, would I get a diamond membership 💎 without doing a thing or paying anything ?
Please help
You are confusing real chess ratings with online chess.com ratings. In order to get a master title, you need to reach a rating by FIDE or by your country at OTB chess. And some countries don't even give master titles at all.
If you reach 2300 on chess.com, nothing happens.
Well, if my country is not active in these things, is there any way to get a free membership online ?
And what is OTB?
And also, I don't know the difference between chess.com rates like blitz and rapid and daily, what do these things do?
And so you said if I reached 2300 in one of them nothing happens?
I'm quite lost...
Bshara_real wrote:
magipi wrote:
Bshara_real wrote:
I'm playing chess using the app only, I don't participate in tournaments in my country, but if only from playing the app I reached a qualified rate like 2300 for NM, would I get a diamond membership 💎 without doing a thing or paying anything ?
Please help
You are confusing real chess ratings with online chess.com ratings. In order to get a master title, you need to reach a rating by FIDE or by your country at OTB chess. And some countries don't even give master titles at all.
If you reach 2300 on chess.com, nothing happens.
Well, if my country is not active in these things, is there any way to get a free membership online ?
And what is OTB?
And also, I don't know the difference between chess.com rates like blitz and rapid and daily, what do these things do?
And so you said if I reached 2300 in one of them nothing happens?
I'm quite lost...
If your country (I don't know what that is) isn't giving NM titles, go to FIDE rated tournaments and get a FIDE-master title. But to do that you need to get much better at chess.
OTB = over the board. Not online.
Online ratings are just a toy. They don't mean anything.
Go find a chess club somewhere near you, and they will help you. If you are indeed from Syria, these are tough times, but chess always survives tough times.
who gave you diamond mebership