how do you get draw in corespondance

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richb8888

In correspondance Chess how do you get an automatic draw  triggered? I have a guy out played me but I have him in perpetual check and there is nothing he can do.  I have offered draw but no responce.  I can keep him in check until 3015 lol  How do you get the 3 fold repetion checkmate to be called in correspondance or should I write a administrator?

amilton542

If this perpetual check is as true as you say it is then you will still have to wait fo your opponent to move. What's the time control per move, one, two or three days?

I've never heard no such thing as a, "3 fold repetition checkmate?" If these perpetual moves are repeated three times the game will be drawn but depending on the time control per move this could take some time.

richb8888

3 repetition move. Supposedly  a button is supposed to open under chat and you can claim draw. This is a 3 day  move game.  I can keep him in check until 4015 no doubt. We have done the same moves about 5 times in a row, He is  in direct check by my queen with nothing to block it.  my game  with paglogironI I did write the admin- this player think I am unethical by causing the draw lol. I told him it is part of the game

Obscura365

If the same position appears three times you can claim a draw to end the game.

amilton542

He said the moves have already been repeated 5 times in a row (the draw should be automatic). I have come across this myself before in standard live games.

Lagomorph

The position needs to be repeated three times. As bb_gum pointed out that has not happened yet. When it does you can press the "offer draw" button and the game will be immediately drawn.

The draw is not automatic and needs to be claimed by pressing the draw button.

adumbrate

No for gods sakes don't press "offer draw" and press "claim draw" instead! The program is bugged so this is a necceserity.

Lagomorph

I think the "offer draw" and "claim draw" button are the same thing. I believe in "online" chess the button changes its name from offer to claim if a 3-fold has occured.

 

Why is it bugged ?

richb8888

I earned a draw in that game

richb8888

The guy cries that i should not check him so he can win lol. I was a lot of games at the same time, sometournament games and I got off to a bad start in this game , he ambushed me early and I give him credit.  I found a flaw in his lack of defense and exploited it. This goof we will have to do the 50 move thing to ge to the draw lol

Obscura365

I haven't seen the "offer draw" button change to "claim draw" so I don't know if it does that. If you offer a draw when the position on the board has appeared three times the game should end. You shouldn't need to go 50 moves.

FuzzleOIL

At which move did you offer/claim a draw the last time?

Lagomorph
FuzzleOIL wrote:

At which move did you offer/claim a draw the last time?

He first tried to claim a draw before the position had repeated three times...see bb_gums post above.

FuzzleOIL

Yes, I saw that. I'm not sure if he tried it again, but this from richb8888 "we will have to do the 50 move thing to ge to the draw" sounds like he tried it also after move 37 or move 38, but it didn't work.

adumbrate
Lagomorph wrote:

I think the "offer draw" and "claim draw" button are the same thing. I believe in "online" chess the button changes its name from offer to claim if a 3-fold has occured.

 

Why is it bugged ?

When the position is claimable to claim the claim draw button arrives. You HAVE to wait until this "Claim Button" comes up for it to work.

Lagomorph
skotheim2 wrote:

When the position is claimable to claim the claim draw button arrives. You HAVE to wait until this "Claim Button" comes up for it to work.

In live chess you just press the offer draw button.

adumbrate
Lagomorph wrote:
skotheim2 wrote:

When the position is claimable to claim the claim draw button arrives. You HAVE to wait until this "Claim Button" comes up for it to work.

In live chess you just press the offer draw button.

Please remain non-troll. This is about correspondence. As seen in the topic.

ThrillerFan
Obscura365 wrote:

If the same position appears three times you can claim a draw to end the game.

There's a caveat to that:

If the same position WITH THE SAME PLAYER TO MOVE and WITH SAID PLAYER HAVING THE SAME LEGAL OPTIONS occurs 3 times, you can claim a draw.

If it appears twice, and the third time, one player trianglated such that the first two times, it was White to move, and the third time, it was Black to move, then there is no claim.  The same position must occur again one more time with White to move or two more times with Black to move before a claim can be made.

As for the same legal options, let's say your move was f7-f5 with a White pawn on e5 that is NOT pinned to the King (doesn't matter if it's pinned to the Queen, it's still "legal" to move it).  White has the option to play En Passant.  Let's say he moves the Queen from e1 to d1.  Black now moves the King from g8 to h8.  White now moves the Queen from d1 back to e1.  Black moves the King back from h8 to g8.  This is NOT 2-fold as the first time, White could play En Passant, this time he can not, and therefore, while it is the same position with the same player to move, said player does not have the same legal options, and so this position must occur 2 more times yet.  The same could apply if one had castling rights originally and now doesn't (or if he could have castled in either direction, moves a Rook, he could still castle the other way, but can't castle one of the two ways, and so again, legal options are different.)

chessarx

I believe when the three move repetition is criteria satisfied/met, the button changes from offer draw to claim draw.  I remember seeing this in a live game I played and I'm assuming it should also happen in a correspondence game.

 

As mentioned you have to claim it. It is not automatic as it can be on other chess playing sites.

Humpty48544

It's definitely an established draw now.  There are plenty of threefold repetitions from move #37 onwards.  How annoying if the button does not allow richb8888 to unilaterally claim a draw.