How do your master chess skills translate in real life?

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showsomeprogress

So in general, I'm not stupid. I even have a very high IQ.

But when it comes to chess, I simply suck. Even though I enjoy playing it (esp. bullet) and have played quite a few games. Seriously I keep making really stupid moves and sometimes it's just hard to think anything on the board.

I see these top score players who can think and make decisions so so fast, take in what is going on in a split sec and read patterns so well.

And I find myself thinking, "what are these people like in real life?"

They must be geniuses?

If you can spot things, make decisions, make strategic decisions like that in real life,

life would be so easy for master chess players, right?

blueemu

Not a Master (rated 2351 chess.com).

My thoughts?

Chess skills, IQ scores, and life skills all have some degree of overlap; they are not mutually exclusive. But they aren't the same thing, either. Just because somebody has an IQ of 150, that doesn't mean that he'll be a good chess player, or a successful businessman, or a stable husband.

He might, and the high IQ might shift the odds somewhat... but the respective skill sets are so different that it's impossible to make a prediction.

What do I do in real life? I'm retired. I spent 20 years making children's cartoons for television, and more recently worked as a Computer Systems Analyst for the Canadian Military.

showsomeprogress

That's a very high ranking.

children's cartoons for television, and more recently worked as a Computer Systems Analyst for the Canadian Military.

-->That actually sounds like a good fit with chess though, 'cause you'll have to catch things fast, be strategic, and be creative too.

HommeSaoul

I treat every people who say they have a high IQ as stupid. In the very least as socially stupid.

You'll probably ignore my post but hopefully one day you'll understand why I wrote it.

showsomeprogress

@HommeSaoul

You should explain why. You may be saying that as a preconception of some sort in an extreme way.

IQ test involves solving puzzles and recognizing patterns, which one may think would help in solving chess.

For ex, if you try solving Mensa puzzles, they involve a lot of pattern recognition.

If I said hey I have high IQ, I'm very smart and should do everything well, then yes you say what you said.

But from what I've seen, people with high IQ (>160), they may or may not be very smart, but stupid they are not.

Deadmanparty

1600 equals suck.  I guess you think that if you are not the top 1 in 10 thousand, you suck.

LilaBird

I'm a beginner who plays chess during long zoom meetings but due to my educational background I know a thing or two about IQ and how it translates to real life skills.

IQ covers more than one form of intelligence and you certainly don't need all of them to be good at chess. But there is a strong correlation between  IQ and Elo. At least in all the data I know about it. This does not mean that every good chess player has a high IQ, but most of them do. (High means >15 pts above the standard deviation) 
 
 
I've found that I can play fairly accurately for a beginner if I'm calm and focused. If not, I do incredible stupid blunders. (Check it out, it's embarrassing and you might feel better about yourself afterwards :-D ) This skill should be more trainable than IQ itself. Meditation would be one way to do this. 
 
I can read from your comment that you push quite a bit of pressure on yourself to get better. If you are nervous when playing, it might block you from the improvement you are longing for.  

 

 

DejarikDreams
showsomeprogress wrote:

If you can spot things, make decisions, make strategic decisions like that in real life,

life would be so easy for master chess players, right?

It would be easier, if they spent as much effort in real life as they do in chess. They have shown to have the ability, but they have to practice it for that particular situation for them to be better at it.

dpnorman

I mean, I have a degree from one of the top universities in the US, but that’s about it. I haven’t developed any special skills in anything other than chess (not to say my skills in chess are special either) and I would not describe myself as being very good at any aspect of life whatsoever.

Something to remember is that becoming strong at chess takes a ton of time and effort. Using that time and effort on chess often means neglecting something else. It’s tough