How many hours to reach 2000 blitz elo?

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shell_knight
catkeson wrote:

@shell_knight.  The funny thing is I kind of agree with you.  It took me a while to get from 700 to 1000 but now that the players i am playing are more experienced the margin that seperates them seems like it is less than before.  I feel like just improving a little bit causes a big jump in points for me.  Just 2 weeks ago I cracked 1000 and last week i was at 1100.  I'll probably be at 1200 in a day or so.  1300 might be next week or the week after.  

Hey, the inverse bell curve isn't known as the standard distribution for nothing.  It's the standard.  'nuf said.

GainzInfinite

This question reminds me of the Chinese parents who come to me, pulling out a wad of hundreds saying "How much will it cost for him to be 2000?".

Chess improvement depends on a lot of things such as talent, workload, distractions, influences etc.

The VAST majority of chess players never get close to 2000 with the average player somewhere around 1500.

That being said, I think if you KILL distractions, arent influenced by the wrong people's advice and study daily...plus stay in good physical shape (this DOES make a big difference), you should be able to get there within 2-3 years if you're an adult and possible much quicker if you're still young.

Getting a coach will also accelerate your improvement dramatically, but again...shop around in this area aswell to avoid duds.

Good luck and enjoy your chess. Smile

GainzInfinite

By the way guys...

In my experience, going from 1000-1500 is a piece of cake, while going from 1500-1800 requires the same work as before but more experience in tournament play and thorough study of your games.

Going from 1800-2000 is harder than the above and requires a real commitment and sacrifice plus tons of tournament experience.

Again it all depends on level of talent, age, distractions, capacity for hard work etc.

Blinsk

I'm surprised how few people seem to be able to tell that shellknight is being sarcastic given how glaringly obvious it is.  Thank you shellknight, if it weren't for irony, sarcasm, and cynicism, life would not be worth living. Wink

TheOldReb
BrendanJNorman wrote:

By the way guys...

In my experience, going from 1000-1500 is a piece of cake, while going from 1500-1800 requires the same work as before but more experience in tournament play and thorough study of your games.

Going from 1800-2000 is harder than the above and requires a real commitment and sacrifice plus tons of tournament experience.

Again it all depends on level of talent, age, distractions, capacity for hard work etc.

What is your definition of tons of tournament experience ?  I think the OP is asking about 2000 blitz rating and possibly even online while it seems you are talking about OTB play , am I wrong ? 

GainzInfinite
Reb wrote:
BrendanJNorman wrote:

By the way guys...

In my experience, going from 1000-1500 is a piece of cake, while going from 1500-1800 requires the same work as before but more experience in tournament play and thorough study of your games.

Going from 1800-2000 is harder than the above and requires a real commitment and sacrifice plus tons of tournament experience.

Again it all depends on level of talent, age, distractions, capacity for hard work etc.

What is your definition of tons of tournament experience ?  I think the OP is asking about 2000 blitz rating and possibly even online while it seems you are talking about OTB play , am I wrong ? 

Well...yep I see your point.

However, I do think that the blitz ratings on chess.com do correlate quite well with FIDE and especially USCF (known to be a little inflated abroad).

And we are still studying CHESS right? Not "internet chess"... Chess is chess.

If he wants to play blitz at a 2000 level, of course he'll need tons of experience (You Reb, are an experienced NM and still 100 points shy of 2000 blitz)

The "tournament" part can kind of be overcome with online games, but nothing can really match the stress and tension of sitting opposite a guy who is trying to beat you, looking at the clock, than back to the position, then your opponent (who seems cool, calm and collected).

This is priceless experience for fast improvement IMO.

I must admit though that I was already around 1700 level before I played my first tournament, all from playing online and studying a lot.

GainzInfinite
Aquarii wrote:

I been playing chess for 7 years

You're from Melbourne mate, thats the chess capital of Australia! LaughingWink

kiloNewton

the higher the tougher and the slower

TheOldReb
BrendanJNorman wrote:
Reb wrote:
BrendanJNorman wrote:

By the way guys...

In my experience, going from 1000-1500 is a piece of cake, while going from 1500-1800 requires the same work as before but more experience in tournament play and thorough study of your games.

Going from 1800-2000 is harder than the above and requires a real commitment and sacrifice plus tons of tournament experience.

Again it all depends on level of talent, age, distractions, capacity for hard work etc.

What is your definition of tons of tournament experience ?  I think the OP is asking about 2000 blitz rating and possibly even online while it seems you are talking about OTB play , am I wrong ? 

Well...yep I see your point.

However, I do think that the blitz ratings on chess.com do correlate quite well with FIDE and especially USCF (known to be a little inflated abroad).

And we are still studying CHESS right? Not "internet chess"... Chess is chess.

If he wants to play blitz at a 2000 level, of course he'll need tons of experience (You Reb, are an experienced NM and still 100 points shy of 2000 blitz)

The "tournament" part can kind of be overcome with online games, but nothing can really match the stress and tension of sitting opposite a guy who is trying to beat you, looking at the clock, than back to the position, then your opponent (who seems cool, calm and collected).

This is priceless experience for fast improvement IMO.

I must admit though that I was already around 1700 level before I played my first tournament, all from playing online and studying a lot.

My current otb blitz rating is 2205 ( uscf ) and I consider otb ratings to be both more accurate and more important than online ratings for several reasons . My highest blitz rating on ICC has been over 2500 some years back . On chess.com I seem to have more problems with lag than on ICC so I play most of my online blitz there .  You still didnt answer my question as to your definition of " tons of tournament experience "  ?  A dozen tournaments ?  50  tournaments ?  what time control or do you count ? several ?  Does online count too ?  You say chess is chess but the truth is that there are some critical differences between OTB and online chess

TheOldReb
GM_Maggy wrote:

well but Uscf is inflated, a 2200 rating uscf means maybe 2000 Fide...

Not sure if that applies to blitz and/or rapid chess which FIDE only recently started rating . I think you refer to classic time controls perhaps and there I tend to agree .  However , my best uscf rating was 2278 and my best FIDE rating was 2245 so I dont see a whole lot of difference in my own personal experience.  There certainly is not a 200 point difference between them as you suggest . My current fide rating is actually higher than my current uscf rating . 

TheOldReb
BrendanJNorman wrote:

This question reminds me of the Chinese parents who come to me, pulling out a wad of hundreds saying "How much will it cost for him to be 2000?".

Chess improvement depends on a lot of things such as talent, workload, distractions, influences etc.

The VAST majority of chess players never get close to 2000 with the average player somewhere around 1500.

That being said, I think if you KILL distractions, arent influenced by the wrong people's advice and study daily...plus stay in good physical shape (this DOES make a big difference), you should be able to get there within 2-3 years if you're an adult and possible much quicker if you're still young.

Getting a coach will also accelerate your improvement dramatically, but again...shop around in this area aswell to avoid duds.

Good luck and enjoy your chess. 

Excellent advice !  I think the highlighted part would certainly refer to someone like the BYP !  Wink

RobinHood75

catkeson: reaching 1200 blitz in three months is not bad, you're probably the kind of guy who will keep improving while playing. You can also try to play slower games (like 15|10 or online games) and CT tactics, it will help you boosting your calculation and making fewer mistakes - the combination blitz / long games is nice. In any case that's all it took to me to get to around 1900 in less than a year.

GainzInfinite
Reb wrote:
BrendanJNorman wrote:

This question reminds me of the Chinese parents who come to me, pulling out a wad of hundreds saying "How much will it cost for him to be 2000?".

Chess improvement depends on a lot of things such as talent, workload, distractions, influences etc.

The VAST majority of chess players never get close to 2000 with the average player somewhere around 1500.

That being said, I think if you KILL distractions, arent influenced by the wrong people's advice and study daily...plus stay in good physical shape (this DOES make a big difference), you should be able to get there within 2-3 years if you're an adult and possible much quicker if you're still young.

Getting a coach will also accelerate your improvement dramatically, but again...shop around in this area aswell to avoid duds.

Good luck and enjoy your chess. 

Excellent advice !  I think the highlighted part would certainly refer to someone like the BYP !  

ThanksSmile

But even I started chess PRETTY late (15) and became reasonably decent, although no genius.

But I can say that even at the very very start, I would have been smart enough to take BYP's words with more than a grain of salt...

If your (a learner, not you Reb Wink) intelligence is so limited that you ONLY study him (in a connected world with information EXPLOSION), then you probably have no talent for chess anyway and would hit a wall at 1500 anyway.

Im truly sure that some people are hating on him just for the sake of "cutting down tall poppies"...

Anybody with true talent for chess will bypass him in short order, just by examining OTHER stuff as well and thinking "man that guy's stuff is crap!".

I dunno about you, but I was always studying 3 books at once as a kid, plus some crappy software like Chessmaster 3000.

In this information age, is a beginner really gonna just base their entire learning experience around BYP?

If yes then they probably arent smart enough to become strong anyway and if no, he's doing no harm.

TheRocketKing

it requires OVER 9000 hours!!

yureesystem

Why would you want to be 2000 on blitz only? I prefer to be 2000 otb, it is more respected it, and some the players who are 2000 blitz are not otb expert, they just are quick with the mouse. Otb expert four to five years, if you are really talented, two to three years.

catkeson

Pretty excited! Just cracked 1500!

catkeson

Just made it to 1800!

catkeson

Made it to 1955 but went back down to 1880 :(

Flops00
Wow! In one good year? Respect! And in OTB Games?
catkeson

I haven't played otb yet.