How powerful is a Grandmaster?

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Also: Akira was loosely based on the Fischer - Spassky WCC match.

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Akira?  do you mean the cartoon? the magna?

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Yep.  The bit when Akira destroys everything; only GMs can do that in real life.

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tonydal

Or perhaps you don't really understand chess very well.  I repeat:  it's not checkers.  Material captures do not necessarily determine the outcome (although they generally influence it considerably of course).

What is with the checkers thing? I just created a hypothetical situation in which a Grandmaster wished to create the outcome I outlayed. I wanted to know if it was possible for him to do so against a first time player. I don't care whether "material captures determine the outcome" or not. I was simply assessing what a Grandmaster was capable of doing. 

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Well, if the beginner knew that the GM was supposed to capture all of his pieces and not lose any of his own, he could just sac his Queen for a Knight or something.

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orangehonda wrote:

This whole thing is a bit unrealistic -- it's a case of not knowing what kinds of questions to ask.  Let me try to put forth something more realistic.

A similar feat, and much more impressive, there used to be odds games where the odds giver could only win by checkmating his opponent on a predetermined square by a predetermined piece!!

This means if that piece was exchanged during play, the game was over.  It gave the odds taker many defensive resources.  For one thing, lets say I had to mate you on c3 with my queens bishop... in the endgame I would need overwhelming material to be able to force your king onto that square.


That is very impressive! Thanks for the example. That definitely helps me get a better grasp on what grandmaster is capable of!

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A GM can...

dance!  Break it down Tonydal!

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theoreticalboy wrote:

Yep.  The bit when Akira destroys everything; only GMs can do that in real life.


 

What power you ask?  how 'bout the power to kill a yak? ...from two hundred yards away! ...with mind bullets!

That's telekinesis Kyle!

How 'bout the power...to move you? (little guitar solo).

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But you are not a GM Tony, so you can't dance.

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GMs can eat plutonium raw, and even swim afterwards.

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i caputered all the pieces of a firts time player without using losing any of my own, once.  i hope he still doesn't think that rooks can capture diagonally on odd moves and that bishops can have shields after caputering a pawn. 

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A gm can kill two birds with half a stone.

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Allen Fisher is a pseudonym for Robert James Fischer

Here we catch GM Fischer inbetween rounds during a famous international chess tourney.

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GM's are like Chuck Norris...they can win a game of chess with only one starting move :))

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tonydal wrote:

OK, then of course it's not possible. Assuming his opponent is in on the gag too, and has developed mentally beyond say the earthworm stage...all he has to do is move his queen out and grab something. Right?

And I think the subtleties and nuances of a GM's brain will hardly all be brought to bear on this rather rudimentary task. 


 The Grandmaster's opponent is not in on the gag. I thought I made that clear.

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Powerful enough to leap tall buildings, run faster than a bullet, and actually being smart enough to figure out a formula to get a girlfriend! o.O

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there's a formula?

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I thought Grandmasters used the force and had lightsabers.

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planeden wrote:

there's a formula?


Yeah, $10 = 15 minutes :)

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rooperi wrote:
planeden wrote:

there's a formula?


Yeah, $10 = 15 minutes :)


so, did you just make me a grandmaster?