How to claim a threefold repetition the right way in FIDE Tournaments

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nilshero

Yesterday, at FIDE Worldcup in Tromsø, Wang Hao claimed a threefold repetition in right moment. After his next move the same position would have occured the third time. But he forgot to write down his move! The arbiters reacted very correct, gave his opp, Dreev, three extra mins, started Wang Haos clock again and made him write down the move first before claiming the draw again. Then it was an official draw. Read the full story at chessbase.com (scroll down ~ middle of page).

Here is a reprint of that game:



So according to FIDE Rules (see 9.2.) there are two situations when the claim is correct:

a) your opp moved and position now on board has appeared (at least) the third time. In that case just stop the clock and claim the draw.

b) After your next move the same position will appear (at least) the third time. In that case write down your move, but dont make the move! Then stop the clock, and claim the draw.

Be precise here, otherwise one day you will bite your own ass Wink

nilshero

if everything you have is a hammer, every problem looks like a nail.

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nilshero wrote:

if everything you have is a hammer, every problem looks like a nail.

I wouldn't recommend chess for that person. Nobody wants their pieces nailed to the board.

removal1

Problem with stopping clock to claim a draw is that you might accidentally fully start your opponents clock; I don't know if claim is then invalid or what!

So at 'normal club level' write move claim draw, then say 'words to effect, I'm going to attempt to pause clock'.

In a tournament say 'words to effect, I think we should call the arbiter'.

Unless your really clever; no more than me; know clock isn't faulty; and are a real pro (who still mess things up, particularly claiming three-fold, as someone has mentioned here.

tygxc

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9.2 The game is drawn, upon a correct claim by a player having the move, when the same position for at least the third time (not necessarily by a repetition of moves):

9.2.1 is about to appear, if he/she first indicates his/her move, which cannot be changed, by writing it on the paper scoresheet or entering it on the electronic scoresheet and declares to the arbiter his/her intention to make this move, or

9.2.2 has just appeared, and the player claiming the draw has the move.

9.2.3 Positions are considered the same if and only if the same player has the move, pieces of the same kind and colour occupy the same squares and the possible moves of all the pieces of both players are the same. Thus positions are not the same if:

9.2.3.1 at the start of the sequence a pawn could have been captured en passant.

9.2.3.2 a king had castling rights with a rook that has not been moved, but forfeited these after moving. The castling rights are lost only after the king or rook is moved.'

https://handbook.fide.com/chapter/E012023