pfren wrote:
Yereslov wrote:
Which position? I must have missed it.
Hardly surprising.
Why is that?
Humans v Houdini chess engine (Elo 3300)
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Firepower8 wrote:
pfren can you post the entire game please btw, computers are notoriously terrible in my experience dealing with closed positions, nice job kicking some cp but.
You must have terrible software.
Even in a tight position Rybka and Fritz see the perfect move.
Firepower8 wrote:
i have houdini which kicks rybkas ane frtitzs ass
Houdini is actually pretty terrible.
I think houdini is better than rybka. Personal opinion.
Notice also that in this tournament (which is correspondence, engines on type) I registered my fastest defeat, ever!
However ridiculous it may sound, I was absorbed by something else I was doing, and played my last move under the false impression I have swapped the bishop on g6. When I realized what I've done, I resigned immediately, without waiting for the opponent's (rather obvious) reply.
You're not going to see Rybka hang a lot of bishops, I'll say that for it.
Remember when...
We used to wait all afternoon by the kiosk for the IHT to arrive, so we could see the latest game in the Fisher vs. Spassky WC ordeal... It was back in the middle ages, as the Monty Pythons would have it, we were toddlers in life and in chess.
We would set up the board, play the game out trying to figure out by ourselves what whas going on - no engine there to spoil it...
Pardon the nostalgia, gentlemen, but I miss those days. We could discover every move, every line, again and again. And it was pure magic...
I don't get it though... even if you don't always trust the engines, wouldn't you at least check with one? Obviously the computer wouldn't recommend Bd3 (computers were allowed, right?).
Bah, you didn't get it.
Of course I check, and in that particular position there was no need to check at all- everything is in the book.
14.Nxg6 hg6 15.Bd3 and white normally goes on gaining space on the kingside by h4, g4 etc (the other option of playing e3-e4 allows Black more counterplay after an eventual ...c5).
I just forgot to take on g6, simple as that... 
It IS silly, but can happen to anyone.
Firepower8 wrote:
and if need to check the rating list, houdini crushes all
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I remember seeing a site with all the engine evaluations. Rybka was far ahead.
pfren wrote:
Bah, you didn't get it.
Of course I check, and in that particular position there was no need to check at all- everything is in the book.
14.Nxg6 hg6 15.Bd3 and white normally goes on gaining space on the kingside by h4, g4 etc (the other option of playing e3-e4 allows Black more counterplay after an eventual ...c5).
I just forgot to take on g6, simple as that...
It IS silly, but can happen to anyone.
But this is why you check!
Elubas wrote:
pfren wrote:
Bah, you didn't get it.
Of course I check, and in that particular position there was no need to check at all- everything is in the book.
14.Nxg6 hg6 15.Bd3 and white normally goes on gaining space on the kingside by h4, g4 etc (the other option of playing e3-e4 allows Black more counterplay after an eventual ...c5).
I just forgot to take on g6, simple as that...
It IS silly, but can happen to anyone.
But this is why you check!
Even grandmasters make obvious mistakes:
Firepower8 wrote:
Yereslov wrote:
Firepower8 wrote:
and if need to check the rating list, houdini crushes all
Did you check the source of the material?
It needs additional citations for verification. Tagged since January 2009. Its use of external links may not follow Wikipedia's policies or guidelines. Tagged since October 2011. It may contain original research. Tagged since October 2011.I remember seeing a site with all the engine evaluations. Rybka was far ahead.
http://www.computerchess.org.uk/ccrl/4040/
houdini is wayyyy above rybka, you claim i dont have updated software?? LOL
I'm not buying it. Another site had the same rating system and Houdini was in third place.
Firepower8 wrote:
Oh did i mention, houdini1.5 is for free? but houdini 2 isnt
It's the same with Rybka.
You can get the older version easily online.
Firepower8 wrote:
i think houdini 1.5 is still better than the updated rybka, correct me if im wrong mr.yereslov
Of course you have to keep in mind that he would correct you if you were right as well.
mrguy888 wrote:
Firepower8 wrote:
i think houdini 1.5 is still better than the updated rybka, correct me if im wrong mr.yereslov
Of course you have to keep in mind that he would correct you if you were right as well.
Well-said!
Firepower8 wrote:
i think houdini 1.5 is still better than the updated rybka, correct me if im wrong mr.yereslov
I don't know. I never tried Houdini 1.5.
finalunpurez wrote:
mrguy888 wrote:
Firepower8 wrote:
i think houdini 1.5 is still better than the updated rybka, correct me if im wrong mr.yereslov
Of course you have to keep in mind that he would correct you if you were right as well.
Well-said!
No, that would be called "trolling."
I do that mostly with Pfren.
Which position? I must have missed it.
Hardly surprising.