I quit chess for now. I hate this bloody game

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B1ZMARK wrote:

Imagine being top 99.9% and quitting because you lost some online games

Reading it a second time, it sounds like that user lost over 100 points due to a single loss.

So they were trying to inflate their rating with the provisional bump, and got angry when they hit their first loss.

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Stil1 wrote:
B1ZMARK wrote:



Imagine being top 99.9% and quitting because you lost some online games

Reading it a second time, it sounds like that user lost over 100 points due to a single loss.

So they were trying to pad their rating using the provisional bump, and got angry when they hit their first loss.

This kind of frustration would go away if he actually worked on his chess ... then he wouldn't need to rely on provisional wins to get a decent rating.

I don't know if it was a single loss that prompted a -100... it's unlikely given lichess's system. (you can't start at 2000, you work your way up from 1500, and by the time you're 2400 your glicko is obviously low)

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hey guys im totally gonna post bandu

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B1ZMARK wrote:
Stil1 wrote:
B1ZMARK wrote:



Imagine being top 99.9% and quitting because you lost some online games

Reading it a second time, it sounds like that user lost over 100 points due to a single loss.

So they were trying to pad their rating using the provisional bump, and got angry when they hit their first loss.

This kind of frustration would go away if he actually worked on his chess ... then he wouldn't need to rely on provisional wins to get a decent rating.

I don't know if it was a single loss that prompted a -100... it's unlikely given lichess's system. (you can't start at 2000, you work your way up from 1500, and by the time you're 2400 your glicko is obviously low)

Hmm. I don't know Lichess too well, so you could be right.

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If you can’t accept your losses, then get out of the game . Someone loses some of of their precious rating points , what a shame ! 🤨
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Agreed

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B1ZMARK wrote:



Imagine being top 99.9% and quitting because you lost some online games

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TheFasting wrote:

The thing I like about chess compared to poker is that it has a lot of the same strategic elements but luck plays absolutely no part in it. Sure you can have a bad day, but the result is never up to chance. Strange how he can get to that level and still think the other guy won due to luck.

Nah. There are plenty of cases when luck happens in chess. Sometimes your opponent walks into what you just prepared for, and sometimes they don't. Sometimes your opponent has a random brain-toot, blunders a piece, and you are the beneficiary. Even the best chess players in history have the wrong synapse fire at a bad time and lose a piece. Were you good or just lucky? Sometimes you're playing online and your internet goes out and you lose. Sometimes you can remember what the theory was move 7 of some line, and sometimes you don't. The brain is subject to all kinds of stochastic processes that we don't have complete control over all of the time. When there are random processes at play, then luck by definition enters the equation because all good luck is, is an outcome that defies the probabilities.

I'd argue that's just a lack of skill on the other guy's part though. I'm new, so sometimes I just straight up forget how the horsey moves and blunder my queen. That's just me being bad at chess, not bad luck. Luck comes into play if the other player is having a bad day, but the outcome of the game is never up to chance as long as the rules regarding how the pieces move don't change. The outcome relies on your own choices, not luck. Your choices might be tainted by external forces, but they're still your choices.

Although if we start talking about determinism and free will, this conversation might get pretty long. nervous.png

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Lmao

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stay mad 

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Nope. You don’t need to talk about determinism, just math. If something has a positive probability of occurring, it’s a mathematical inevitability that it will happen, given enough iterations. Let’s say that my chances of beating Magnus are 1 in 5000. If I play him enough times (and don’t die first) I will eventually beat him. It’s mathematically inevitable. The stars will have to align, but it will happen.

Let’s say the first time I play him, the stars align and I beat him. That’s incredibly lucky. Let’s say the stars don’t align and that doesn’t happen until the 57,000th time I play him. Then I’m incredibly unlucky. The stars WILL align but I have practically no control over when since I try just as hard to win every time.
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NikkiLikeChikki wrote:
Nope. You don’t need to talk about determinism, just math. If something has a positive probability of occurring, it’s a mathematical inevitability that it will happen, given enough iterations. Let’s say that my chances of beating Magnus are 1 in 5000. If I play him enough times (and don’t die first) I will eventually beat him. It’s mathematically inevitable. The stars will have to align, but it will happen.

lets talk about optimism then

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dorthcaar wrote:
NikkiLikeChikki wrote:
Nope. You don’t need to talk about determinism, just math. If something has a positive probability of occurring, it’s a mathematical inevitability that it will happen, given enough iterations. Let’s say that my chances of beating Magnus are 1 in 5000. If I play him enough times (and don’t die first) I will eventually beat him. It’s mathematically inevitable. The stars will have to align, but it will happen.

lets talk about optimism then

 

How about realism? Blitz rating means garbage. Stop taking it so serious.

 

 

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You guys are missing the point entirely. It doesn't matter if we're talking about you playing Magnus or you playing the lottery. If you do either enough, you will win, it's just a statistical fact.

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bro who the hell gives a crap. my opinion is that he quit cuz he bad so stay mad kid

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If I read a simple book for basic review my chess.com blitz goes down to 1900. No.. no.. no... cry.png I hope it will go up again.

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NikkiLikeChikki wrote:

You guys are missing the point entirely. It doesn't matter if we're talking about you playing Magnus or you playing the lottery. If you do either enough, you will win, it's just a statistical fact.

you need 'samples' to make statistical facts. "My chances of beating Magnus 1 in 5000" is a probablity. Not a sample.

You need real datas to make statistics. 

1 in 50 chance doesnt mean it happens once for every fifty try.

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nighteyes1234 wrote:
dorthcaar wrote:
NikkiLikeChikki wrote:
Nope. You don’t need to talk about determinism, just math. If something has a positive probability of occurring, it’s a mathematical inevitability that it will happen, given enough iterations. Let’s say that my chances of beating Magnus are 1 in 5000. If I play him enough times (and don’t die first) I will eventually beat him. It’s mathematically inevitable. The stars will have to align, but it will happen.

lets talk about optimism then

 

How about realism? Blitz rating means garbage. Stop taking it so serious*.

 

 

Seriously*