I Simply Cannot See Stuff Good Players Can

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defenserulz

I'm into my second year of chess and feel frustrated that I simply cannot "see" stuff, nor understand stuff quickly (when told to me) that good players can quickly pick up.  

When watching Youtube commentary from popular chess channels and commentators, such as kingscrusher ( https://www.youtube.com/user/kingscrusher) and the St. Louis Chess Club (https://www.youtube.com/user/STLChessClub), I'll often have to pause these videos when the commentators/lecturers are going through things to either visually see what they're talking about or conceptually better understand what's going on (sometimes both).  I feel slow.  Frown

It's like they're going at lightening speed to me and I need a minute (sometimes several) to catch up.

What can be done?

On top of that, I simply don't consider the things they bring up in games.  When I'm playing, I look at and consider very different things than what good players do . . .How can one develop a sense of better play when you're not even thinking the same way as good players?

Drawgood

Two years is not enough time to expect to understand everything intuitively. People learn for years, plus many learn and play chess since age 4-5. Then there are the higher rank players who get daily coaching from parents or coaches, and they spend many hours on it, each day of the week. Usually it is because parents or they want to go to competitions and win medals and awards. I think that much in depth studying of chess isnt that healthy.

But about your question. There is another thing I thought about. Following people online for chess lessons isn't always the best way to learn. Before computers and to this day in many schools, students have a real board in front of them and a paper bound book. That wat you read and make moves at your own pace. You get physical memory from using real chess pieces instead of digital screen. It is how chess players learned in history until recently.

RonaldJosephCote

       Its the same with, "Jeopardy". You can have the right answer but if you don't hit the buzzer in time.....Undecided

SilentKnighte5
RonaldJosephCote wrote:

       Its the same with, "Jeopardy". You can have the right answer but if you don't hit the buzzer in time.....

Wrong Sir. Because they are both marsupials. Members of the marsupial family. Do you understand me?

GhostNight

Try playing slower games and give yourself more time to think. When you lose a game because you gave a piece away for free does not mean you were out played. Maybe because you are a kind and generous person. You gota think mean  when playing chess, like possibly silentknight does?Laughing

NewArdweaden

Train tactics, a lot of tactics.

PossibleOatmeal

This is like expecting to keep up with Shakespeare in your 2nd year of reading.  It's gonna take awhile.  Immerse yourself in the game.  You will start to see whole sentences at once rather than letters eventually, but it won't be immediate.

Saint_Anne

I don't understand why other players can't see what I do, and likewise I can't understand why I don't see what other players do.  A mystery.  "Chess For Zebras" by Jonathan Rowson has a lot of observations about our thought processes.

Dolphin27

I see that you've played 612 blitz games but only spent 2.5 hours on tactics trainer. To improve at chess you need to play longer games. By the way, in a lot of those videos I have to slow it down too. Sometimes they're going over games that were played over the span of 4-6 hours and the video on the game is like 15 minutes.

Soltan_Gris
SilentKnighte5 wrote:
RonaldJosephCote wrote:

       Its the same with, "Jeopardy". You can have the right answer but if you don't hit the buzzer in time.....

Wrong Sir. Because they are both marsupials. Members of the marsupial family. Do you understand me?

Nice reference. 

jambyvedar

As others told 2 years is not enough to understand everything. Even GM still tries to improve their game and understanding.

Get a good source of learning.Perhaps you should try to seek good books that are appropriate for your level.

Drawgood

I assume you also read instruction books about chess. If not, I highly recommend getting some general knowledge and classic chess technique books. Recently I downloaded an app (app titled e+Chess Books whose icon is a yellow background and a white knight with letters "e+" )for the iphone that is all about chess books and has an interactive board. They gave one free book by Raul Capablanca which is written to those who know the rules of chess but not how to win. A sort of beginner to intermediate book. Apparently its a very good classic book. Also many people like books by famous chess players in general like. THere is a book that is allegedly by Bobby Fischer, titled My 60 Memorable Games. (I read that he didn't actually write most of the move commentary, although it is his 60 games in that book).Read some classics such as anything you can find by Emmanuel Lasker. Even if you don't get what he is talking about, you should try because he is a legendary player.Also there is a book that apparently has something to do with chess.com, or at least chess.com is mentioned in it. It is titled "The Process of Decision Making in Chess" by Philip Ochman. There are links in the book to online interactive boards as well. In my case when I watch online videos of someone's chess instruction I find that when listen to Yasser Siranawan (one of US chess champions) it is easier to follow. He speaks slower and seems to not go too deep into hypothetical moves.

jambyvedar

My 60 memorable game by Fischer is classic. But that book is too advance for a novice level.

dpnorman

You just need to keep at it. You can go back and look at my forum history, for example. At this time three or four years ago I was about where you are. I was really frustrated with the game. Now I am rated over 1800 USCF. I didn't do anything too special. The only major special thing I recommend, at least for improving your level of play, is playing against stronger opponents. If you play people who are better than you, you will lose a lot, but you will also learn how to play chess at a much higher level.

Drawgood

Oh, also, what I found makes me feel better when I lose is if I had been playing as black. I can always pretend i lost because white goes first.

AIM-AceMove

Now it's 3 1/2 years since you started with chess and you are still around 1 000 rated. I started around ~3 years ago, but with past experience 10+ years ago as kid, like knowing perfect all rules and basic checkmates and few hundred blitz games., but thats it. I spent a lot of time watching videos like you did and playing bullet and blitz, but i almost stopped them, only for openings i play blitz.. So problem with you must be 2 things:

You dont spent enough time studying chess. You have to be consistent with chess. Learning something, but then taking brake from chess is fatal. You have to aplly constantly what you have learned.

You don't learn from your mistakes and you don't play slow games. 4 600 blitz 10/0 games for begiiner is way too much. You should have started to play slow time controls when you reached 1500 blitz games or so. And why you play 10/0 this is worst time control. It gives you illusion you have time, but then you are in big hurry with no inc and basically you learn nothing from endgame.