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pdve · 2018-07-05T06:28:06-07:00

I think it's true that lower rated players should focus more on chess tactics than other more esoteric parts of the game such as opening or endgame. I just became a platinum member to use tactics trainer and I feel it is helping my positional chess as well. What is your opinion?

varelse1

Jul 6, 2018

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#21

Win positionally, lose tactically.

Much less frustrating than doing it the other way.

varelse1

Jul 6, 2018

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#22

IMBacon wrote:

MAKWANA-THE-GREAT wrote:

ponz111 wrote:

Luitpoldt wrote:

Why not just study tactics by playing actual games? That at least will assure that the tactics examples you have to solve are realistic, in contrast to the ones you will find in tactics training settings, which are often ludicrously artificial.

This would not work. In actual games you would miss the tactics and learn very little.

you just play more games to increase the amount of tactical knowledge yo gain and again you review and analyze your own games this will work definitely and is way better than tactics

Thats like saying, you should just do more math problems, without actually studying math.

Yes.

Studying tactics can give you new ideas you never thought of before.

I remember studying tactics once as a beginner, came across the most amazing combination. Even had a name. "Smothered mate" they called it.

A week later, I did it to my friend in speed chess. He just sat there staring at it, holding my queen he just snapped, jaw on the floor, not believing it was really mate.

Jecnez

Jul 6, 2018

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#23

i agree

Vertwitch

Jul 6, 2018

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#24

from my experience... after doing like 3k tactics, I ve seen an improvement. my rating went from 500+ to a solid 900 ... so there is a lot more for me to solve.... mate in 1, 2, 3-4 moves, defenses and captures!

Pawnlings

Jul 6, 2018

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#25

Vertwitch wrote:

from my experience... after doing like 3k tactics, I ve seen an improvement. my rating went from 500+ to a solid 900 ... so there is a lot more for me to solve.... mate in 1, 2, 3-4 moves, defenses and captures!

After 3000 tactics you rating jumped to 900? I also noticed you use next to no time when solving tactics. Out of the last 20 tactics I think you got 2 correctly but you rarely spend 10 seconds or more on them. Maybe try to calculate them out, look at why the tactic is possible. What mistake allowed the tactic?

tipish

Jul 6, 2018

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#26

ponz111 wrote:

pdve wrote:

i am now sure that tactics is the way to go since it is the most universal way of studying chess and everything else just follows from it.r

Tactics are very important but not everything follows from learning tactics. You need basic principles of playing openings and basic ideas on playing endgames also.

Also you need to learn about Pawn Structure.

hey in your generation learning tactics without computers. how did you learn tactic books?

IMKeto

Jul 6, 2018

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#27

tipish wrote:

ponz111 wrote:

pdve wrote:

i am now sure that tactics is the way to go since it is the most universal way of studying chess and everything else just follows from it.r

Tactics are very important but not everything follows from learning tactics. You need basic principles of playing openings and basic ideas on playing endgames also.

Also you need to learn about Pawn Structure.

hey in your generation learning tactics without computers. how did you learn tactic books?

There is no substitute for a book, real board, and pieces.

ponz111

Jul 6, 2018

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#28

tipish wrote:

ponz111 wrote:

pdve wrote:

i am now sure that tactics is the way to go since it is the most universal way of studying chess and everything else just follows from it.r

Tactics are very important but not everything follows from learning tactics. You need basic principles of playing openings and basic ideas on playing endgames also.

Also you need to learn about Pawn Structure.

hey in your generation learning tactics without computers. how did you learn tactic books?

I was just naturally good in tactics.

I played postal chess and had plenty of time to find positions which called for tactics and then to discover the tactics and solutions.

Never had a book on tactics.

Preggo_Basashi

Jul 6, 2018

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#29

tipish wrote:

ponz111 wrote:

pdve wrote:

i am now sure that tactics is the way to go since it is the most universal way of studying chess and everything else just follows from it.r

Tactics are very important but not everything follows from learning tactics. You need basic principles of playing openings and basic ideas on playing endgames also.

Also you need to learn about Pawn Structure.

hey in your generation learning tactics without computers. how did you learn tactic books?

Just think back in Morphy's time, or Steintiz.

Guys of that era played all sorts of wild sacrificial mating attacks and no one ever taught them anything (there were beginner manuals, but that's about it).

They probably just sat with a board and a game collection, and any time a move didn't make sense they analyzed it on their own for hours, finding all sorts of interesting tactics on their own.

And since there were rarely be people to play with, they'd play themselves, and analyze for hours.

1stClash

Jul 6, 2018

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#30

I need to study both tactics and endgame... far too often I will get a winning position in the opening and middle game, and not know how to close out with the expected win. Once I was studying tactics and then played a game and the exact position from one of the tactics puzzles came up in that game... what are the odds... I would have totally missed it if I hadn't recognized the position.

IMKeto

Jul 6, 2018

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#31

Preggo_Basashi wrote:

tipish wrote:

ponz111 wrote:

pdve wrote:

i am now sure that tactics is the way to go since it is the most universal way of studying chess and everything else just follows from it.r

Tactics are very important but not everything follows from learning tactics. You need basic principles of playing openings and basic ideas on playing endgames also.

Also you need to learn about Pawn Structure.

hey in your generation learning tactics without computers. how did you learn tactic books?

Just think back in Morphy's time, or Steintiz.

Guys of that era played all sorts of wild sacrificial mating attacks and no one ever taught them anything (there were beginner manuals, but that's about it).

They probably just sat with a board and a game collection, and any time a move didn't make sense they analyzed it on their own for hours, finding all sorts of interesting tactics on their own.

And since there were rarely be people to play with, they'd play themselves, and analyze for hours.

As with most technological advances. What was made to make people smarter, and made them lazier.

Just because technology made something easier, doesnt mean its better.

ponz111

Jul 6, 2018

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#32

I am not against technology--i think it is great for teaching how to play chess very well.

Wish I would have had it back in the day!

IMKeto

Jul 6, 2018

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#33

ponz111 wrote:

I am not against technology--i think it is great for teaching how to play chess very well.

Wish I would have had it back in the day!

Dont get me wrong, im not against it either. Its made chess, studying, playing, erc. easier, and more accessible. But i also think it has created lazy study habits. Look what cell phones have done.