Well... how long would it be possible to go to the old site? Till next week? Nobody tells us ...
I want old chess.com back
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Nov 23, 2016
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#3
The retirement of v2 hasn't been set in stone. The last post erik made about it was it won't go away for many months.
Nov 23, 2016
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#4
No offense to the OP or the good people of the Midwest but I have to say.... Get this site back to normal or I am outta here! It is now a bag of nails.
Nov 23, 2016
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#5
The interplay is suspect and copy n paste is as janky as a wombat on a Wednesday.
Martin_Stahl wrote:
The retirement of v2 hasn't been set in stone. The last post erik made about it was it won't go away for many months.
I haven't played in about a week but this time it took me longer for some reason to figure out how to get back to the old site. Why not just keep the option for going back, and keeping the new site as well? That way everyone is happy. I'm sure there is a reason, but I wonder if that reason is more important thank giving all chess.com members what they want.
Nov 23, 2016
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#7
The primary reason is upgrades to some of the core infrastructure components are needed and those upgrades won't work with v2 code. That was the last post I saw from erik about it. v3 was originally coded because v2 code was getting hard to add features to (simplification of the situation on my part), without causing problems and that necessitated a complete rewrite anyway.
Martin_Stahl wrote:
The primary reason is upgrades to some of the core infrastructure components are needed and those upgrades won't work with v2 code. That was the last post I saw from erik about it. v3 was originally coded because v2 code was getting hard to add features to (simplification of the situation on my part), without causing problems and that necessitated a complete rewrite anyway.
Thank you for the reply. I'm sure chess.com figures that is a good reason, but it's not something I would agree with. I dont know anything about code, so why not just not use the new codes for version 2? Leave it alone, just the way it is. That way anyone that gets tired of it or wants new features can just use the new version. Probably not that easy, but that's what I would like to see.
Nov 23, 2016
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#9
richie_and_oprah wrote:
This compulsion to add features is the bane of all efficiently working systems.
These "Code People" really need to familiarize themselves with the law of diminishing returns, and perhaps apply it to their work.
People request features. You can peruse the Site Feedback Forums from before v3 was started and see all the feature requests. And those are just the ones that made it to that forum; there are also some in other forums and direct requests to the site.
It isn't just "code people" but a growing site will evolve over time to gain or improve features or lose market share to competitors.
Nov 23, 2016
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#10
lfPatriotGames wrote:
Martin_Stahl wrote:
The primary reason is upgrades to some of the core infrastructure components are needed and those upgrades won't work with v2 code. That was the last post I saw from erik about it. v3 was originally coded because v2 code was getting hard to add features to (simplification of the situation on my part), without causing problems and that necessitated a complete rewrite anyway.
Thank you for the reply. I'm sure chess.com figures that is a good reason, but it's not something I would agree with. I dont know anything about code, so why not just not use the new codes for version 2? Leave it alone, just the way it is. That way anyone that gets tired of it or wants new features can just use the new version. Probably not that easy, but that's what I would like to see.
A lot of what people don't like in v3 is the user interface. That is being tweaked and will likely still receive updates after v2 is gone. In 2012 the site also received a pretty big update and the changes weren't as drastic. A lot of people hated it too, yet today, that is essentially the version that some are clamoring to keep.
In a couple years, things will be normal again. Yeah, the site will lose some diehard fans. It happens and not everyone deals with change the same way and not everyone likes the level of compromise and updates erik is willing to put towards v3.
Nov 23, 2016
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#11
richie_and_oprah wrote:
Your ability to be an apologist and to continue to pump out propaganda is impressive. Your blind loyalty is quite a thing to behold.
I would take apart the silliness and vacuity of your above position but I have better things to do.
More features does not equal better .... this is the basic fault with your entire premise.
I'm a realist.
I've been here since late 2009 and this is the third update I remember. The one in 2012 was similar in public outcry. There are things I don't like about v3 and I have posted about them in the past and will do so as the site moves forward, if I feel the need. But for the most part, it works fine. When I run across something that doesn't, I report it. Most of the things I have reported have been fixed (if they were bugs and not design decisions).
Not apologizing for anything. Doesn't do any good to do it. The simple fact is that you can not please everyone.
I also never claimed more = better.
Nov 23, 2016
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#12
kaynight wrote:
Get your own material Dinner.
No idea what you're talking about.
yes the new site is confusing
Nov 23, 2016
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#16
They probably could have made a design that looked essentially the same if they wanted to. They decided on a different design.
Nov 23, 2016
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#17
They had to rewrite the back-end and then also the front-end to hook into the new code. They could have left the front-end essentially the same. But disliking the design is subjective. It isn't my favorite design but works well, in my opinion and isn't worth leaving the site over. But, I understand that some other people don't agree.
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Nov 25, 2016
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#19
The old site will stay around until most people are happy with the new site. We are constantly making improvements and will keep making it faster, better, and more flexible for everyone. The old site will probably be around until March I guess.
At the end of the day, things need to move forward. Windows 3.1. Then 95. Then 98. Then XP. ME. Vista. 7. 8. 10... and iOS. And Mac. And YouTube. And... I know it's hard. Hard for me too sometimes! We are trying our best to help ease the transition. Please let me know personally if you have any questions or specific feedback.
I do not like the new one.
Give the nicer back.