If You're A Chess Player, You're Probably Smarter Than Others. Is this, TRUE? - Chess Forums - Page 5

PerpetualPatzer123

Aug 2, 2021

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#81

You literally said I was incorrect lol

PerpetualPatzer123

Aug 2, 2021

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#82

ChesswithNickolay wrote:

AunTheKnight wrote:

mrfreezyiceboy wrote:

yeah but "their" has already become so commonly used that it's technically fine to use it

He started it by saying ‘their’ was more correct lol. ‘Their’ is still incorrect, technically. That’s like saying if lots of people murder each other it means murder is okay.

Nah because there are people who will never change their opinion on murder, most of those who are religious will not even murder. Unlike this, the English language is ever changing, and humans shape the way of this language. Nowadays, when you speak, you may use "their" because most people use "their". And plus, it is much better to speak (only informally) "their" instead of highlighting the possibility of the gender. Will you say, his/her/non-binary? I don't think so.

You said I was wrong. When I was proved right you start this strange… thing. Admit your mistake and move on. “Their” for singular is technically wrong. How is it better in informal speech?

PerpetualPatzer123

Aug 2, 2021

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#83

ChesswithNickolay wrote:

AunTheKnight wrote:

ChesswithNickolay wrote:

AunTheKnight wrote:

ChesswithNickolay wrote:

https://www.google.com/search?safe=active&q=their+instead+of+his+or+her&rlz=1C1CHBF_enCA916CA916&oq=their+inste&aqs=chrome.0.0i512j69i57j0i512l2j0i22i30l5j0i390.3163j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

Did your read what was Googled?

‘Originally Answered: Is it correct to use “their” instead of “his or her”? If you have a singular subject, such as “someone,” then, technically, it's correct only to use the singular (his or her). However, people break this rule very often, so it has become prevalent to use the plural pronoun, and few people notice.’

Yes, I did, but now since more people use it it is kind of the proper way. But still if you had to take a test, it is better to put his/her. But this is a chess site, not a school.

Then why did you…?

Because this is a chess site duh. Are you really gonna say "I consider after a long theoretical conclusion, that those players of this game chess do not lack as much of an intelligence as those who choose not to participate in this game of chess."?

Are you really saying proper grammar isn’t to be used on a chess site? Lol

NM darkunorthodox88

Aug 2, 2021

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#84

kartikeya_tiwari wrote:

mrfreezyiceboy wrote:

kartikeya_tiwari wrote:

mpaetz wrote:

kartikeya_tiwari wrote:

Literally any sport or activity where there is competition requires learning, planning, thinking, analyzing. Chess is no different than any other activity.

Yes, but that's about all there is to chess. No exercise, speed, strength, agility. It's only appeal is to the intellect.

chess has no relationship with intellect

if you're a good chess player, then you likely have decent pattern recognition and memory. playing chess won't make you the smartest in the world, but you will be just a little bit smarter than most people

Again, pattern recognition is a "SKILL" which has nothing to do with intellect. For example, FPS gaming also requires a lot of memorization(you have tons of maps which u have to memorize), you have to guess player' position(just like you have to guess what move the other person would play) and on top of all of this you need good hand eye coordination... So theoretically FPS gamers should be above chess players in IQ...

Point is, chess has exactly 0% relationship with intellect and this is true for every single skill. Football, gaming, checkers etc etc nothing has any relationship with intellect

intelligence and pattern recognition are very intimately related, because intelligence and certain aspects of functional memory are strongly related. You think the capacity to store thousands upon thousands of different tabiyas AND creatively use this knowledge when new situations arise has NO correlation to intellect? you are trolling right?

and you think skills have no relation to intellect? false dichotomies. Chess is an intellectual skill.

who in the world doubts that most experts and masters have normal level intelligence or above? thats like seriously questioning if most basketball player are not midgets.

PerpetualPatzer123

Aug 2, 2021

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#85

ChesswithNickolay wrote:

AunTheKnight wrote:

ChesswithNickolay wrote:

AunTheKnight wrote:

mrfreezyiceboy wrote:

yeah but "their" has already become so commonly used that it's technically fine to use it

He started it by saying ‘their’ was more correct lol. ‘Their’ is still incorrect, technically. That’s like saying if lots of people murder each other it means murder is okay.

Nah because there are people who will never change their opinion on murder, most of those who are religious will not even murder. Unlike this, the English language is ever changing, and humans shape the way of this language. Nowadays, when you speak, you may use "their" because most people use "their". And plus, it is much better to speak (only informally) "their" instead of highlighting the possibility of the gender. Will you say, his/her/non-binary? I don't think so.

You said I was wrong. When I was proved right you start this strange… thing. Admit your mistake and move on. “Their” for singular is technically wrong. How is it better in informal speech?

Because, grammatically "gonna" and "wassup" are wrong, but people do use them in informal tone. And like I said, would you go around highlighting the thought that someone is of the two sexes and not of "the other sex"? There is a reason people use "their" instead of "his/her". If there was no, then why doesn't the same thing happen to other words? Think about it. People used "his/her" during a time when women did not have the same rights as men. Now it could even be insulting to not only women, but to people of other sexes as well. You may think I am crazy about the "women" part, but I actually offended someone online (although debatable over the exact cause, it can be evaluated that this was a factor in the event".

There are only 2 sexes.

You are correcting me for proper grammar.

Yes, saying him/her is offensive. Totally. One person online who was probably trolling is your source.

PerpetualPatzer123

Aug 2, 2021

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#86

ChesswithNickolay wrote:

AunTheKnight wrote:

ChesswithNickolay wrote:

AunTheKnight wrote:

ChesswithNickolay wrote:

AunTheKnight wrote:

ChesswithNickolay wrote:

https://www.google.com/search?safe=active&q=their+instead+of+his+or+her&rlz=1C1CHBF_enCA916CA916&oq=their+inste&aqs=chrome.0.0i512j69i57j0i512l2j0i22i30l5j0i390.3163j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

Did your read what was Googled?

‘Originally Answered: Is it correct to use “their” instead of “his or her”? If you have a singular subject, such as “someone,” then, technically, it's correct only to use the singular (his or her). However, people break this rule very often, so it has become prevalent to use the plural pronoun, and few people notice.’

Yes, I did, but now since more people use it it is kind of the proper way. But still if you had to take a test, it is better to put his/her. But this is a chess site, not a school.

Then why did you…?

Because this is a chess site duh. Are you really gonna say "I consider after a long theoretical conclusion, that those players of this game chess do not lack as much of an intelligence as those who choose not to participate in this game of chess."?

Are you really saying proper grammar isn’t to be used on a chess site? Lol

Well it can be, but the English language is invented by humans, and if people started using lets say "hmrg" for humans, then if like 95% of people used it, it would mean that this word will be a vocabulary word for human.

Doesn’t mean ‘human’ is wrong. The general consensus is that using ‘their’ for a singular noun is incorrect. I believe my writing teacher is better at grammar compared to you.

PerpetualPatzer123

Aug 2, 2021

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#87

ChesswithNickolay wrote:

If your probably scared of being proved wrong by a "russian boy", which is understandable because most boys in Russia suck at English, then you shouldn't be because I live in North America.

I know you live in North America. I’m not scared of losing to you lol. Your arguments are good but you are still wrong according to grammar.

NM darkunorthodox88

Aug 2, 2021

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#88

who give a flying F.... can you two get back on topic?

PerpetualPatzer123

Aug 2, 2021

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#89

What does nationality have to do with proficiency in English?

PerpetualPatzer123

Aug 2, 2021

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#90

ChesswithNickolay wrote:

AunTheKnight wrote:

ChesswithNickolay wrote:

AunTheKnight wrote:

ChesswithNickolay wrote:

AunTheKnight wrote:

mrfreezyiceboy wrote:

yeah but "their" has already become so commonly used that it's technically fine to use it

He started it by saying ‘their’ was more correct lol. ‘Their’ is still incorrect, technically. That’s like saying if lots of people murder each other it means murder is okay.

Nah because there are people who will never change their opinion on murder, most of those who are religious will not even murder. Unlike this, the English language is ever changing, and humans shape the way of this language. Nowadays, when you speak, you may use "their" because most people use "their". And plus, it is much better to speak (only informally) "their" instead of highlighting the possibility of the gender. Will you say, his/her/non-binary? I don't think so.

You said I was wrong. When I was proved right you start this strange… thing. Admit your mistake and move on. “Their” for singular is technically wrong. How is it better in informal speech?

Because, grammatically "gonna" and "wassup" are wrong, but people do use them in informal tone. And like I said, would you go around highlighting the thought that someone is of the two sexes and not of "the other sex"? There is a reason people use "their" instead of "his/her". If there was no, then why doesn't the same thing happen to other words? Think about it. People used "his/her" during a time when women did not have the same rights as men. Now it could even be insulting to not only women, but to people of other sexes as well. You may think I am crazy about the "women" part, but I actually offended someone online (although debatable over the exact cause, it can be evaluated that this was a factor in the event".

There are only 2 sexes.

You are correcting me for proper grammar.

Yes, saying him/her is offensive. Totally. One person online who was probably trolling is your source.

I agree with the two sex part, but I have offended many people by claiming there are only two sexes. Yes, the person probably was a troll, but let's say even if it wasn't true? There is still the two sex part. And if you go around saying his/her/non-binary then it also shows that you believe in three genders, and people start to judge you.

Sexes and genders are different. Sex is something you are born with. It is biological. Gender isn’t. You could be born male but become non-binary. That means you aren’t identifying yourself as male or female, but you are biologically male.

PerpetualPatzer123

Aug 2, 2021

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#91

darkunorthodox88 wrote:

who give a flying F.... can you two get back on topic?

Sorry, sir/ma’am.

PerpetualPatzer123

Aug 2, 2021

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#92

ChesswithNickolay wrote:

AunTheKnight wrote:

ChesswithNickolay wrote:

If your probably scared of being proved wrong by a "russian boy", which is understandable because most boys in Russia suck at English, then you shouldn't be because I live in North America.

I know you live in Canada. I’m not scared of losing to you lol. Your arguments are good but you are still wrong according to grammar.

I agree that it is wrong in terms of grammar. I am top of my English class after all. But you can use their in any other case. For example, let's say you have to a letter to a major company's CEO about the resume of the competitor brand's CEO. You would have to describe the CEO of the competitor's brand, who is anonymous. Would you write, "...and their resume consists of..." or "and his/her/non-binary resume consists of..."?

Yes, but I was using proper grammar to begin with so this was unnecessary. Also, you said my grammar was wrong.

PerpetualPatzer123

Aug 2, 2021

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#93

ChesswithNickolay wrote:

AunTheKnight wrote:

ChesswithNickolay wrote:

AunTheKnight wrote:

ChesswithNickolay wrote:

If your probably scared of being proved wrong by a "russian boy", which is understandable because most boys in Russia suck at English, then you shouldn't be because I live in North America.

I know you live in Canada. I’m not scared of losing to you lol. Your arguments are good but you are still wrong according to grammar.

I agree that it is wrong in terms of grammar. I am top of my English class after all. But you can use their in any other case. For example, let's say you have to a letter to a major company's CEO about the resume of the competitor brand's CEO. You would have to describe the CEO of the competitor's brand, who is anonymous. Would you write, "...and their resume consists of..." or "and his/her/non-binary resume consists of..."?

Yes, but I was using proper grammar to begin with so this was unnecessary. Also, you said my grammar was wrong.

Well for a chess site, it may not be considered "proper".

How? People speak normal languages here

Chessflyfisher

Aug 2, 2021

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#94

No.

Drawgood

Aug 2, 2021

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#95

100% guaranteed not to be true. You are only “smarter”, or I should say more skilled at chess. It is a pseudo scientific myth that people who either play chess or who are “good” at chess are also somehow more intelligent in other subjects.

I think this myth was and still is perpetuated by cultures who generally value chess overall and want to give a reasons for themselves to spend many hours on chess, or to give justifications for parents who may be considering sending their kids to chess clubs. Although that last part would be related to a different claim, which is that that chess allegedly makes kids more intelligent.

There may be some correlation between chess play and the same people generally studious in other spheres of life. But not because of chess.

assgatito

Aug 2, 2021

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#96

I'd say sorta true, chess is told to make control of multiple things.

THECHESSMAN_78

Aug 2, 2021

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#97

and I guessed it this was made by a 400!

nTzT

Aug 2, 2021

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#98

Your rapid rating is 450... I think you have to be trolling. You have been on Chess.com for more than a decade and you are at the bottom 16%. So most people are much better than you. Others are probably much smarter than you.

UmekoChan

Aug 2, 2021

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#99

Nope! If im a chess player that dose not make me smarter than others in any way

zes0460

Aug 3, 2021

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#100

this is not an english class, no one cares if it is their or his/her.. why did it have to take pages? we already understand what it means.. oh but it is too important to feel "right".. right? stop spamming the thread, already reported