I'm trying to convince my friend chess is harder than checkers, i need help!

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StMichealD

I'm trying to convince my friend chess is harder than checkers, i need help!

what should i tell him?

he says give him 1000 good reasons and he'll believe me

MrEdCollins

You can probably start here.  It's your own thread.

http://www.chess.com/forum/view/general/100000-reasons-why-chess-is-better-than-checkers

Scottrf

Stop the spam.

StMichealD

i tried that, he said 3 were good enough to prove that chess is harder

but he still want 997

daddyjordan22

That's a bogus demand. Anyone with an introductory knowledge of both games can easily see why chess is more complex than checkers. Simply realizing that one game has multiple units of movement variance is enough to understand that is more complex than the other.

StMichealD
daddyjordan22 wrote:

That's a bogus demand. Anyone with an introductory knowledge of both games can easily see why chess is more complex than checkers. Simply realizing that one game has multiple units of movement variance is enough to understand that is more complex than the other.

thanks

FonzMcBride

you need help alright

pelly13

It all depends on the criteria one uses to define "complexity".

xxvalakixx

Chess is much more difficult. In chess there are many pieces, in checkers there are only "pawns" and "pawn that can move backward".

By the way, does anybody know a good website where I can find information about checker strategy? I am interested in this game, but I am so weak :D 

daddyjordan22
xxvalakixx wrote:

Chess is much more difficult. In chess there are many pieces, in checkers there are only "pawns" and "pawn that can move backward".

By the way, does anybody know a good website where I can find information about checker strategy? I am interested in this game, but I am so weak :D 

Checkers will improve your ability to calculate.  Forced variations often happen in checker games which gives you the ability to work on your depth of calculating and board vision. To be a good checkers player you must have a good calculating ability. I used to play a woman in a nursing home when I was a child many years ago and she could calculate many moves ahead and many times she's look up at me with a smile and say things like "looks like I win in 12 turns!" or "you'll lose with that move. Watch what happens" and play out nine or so turns to show she'll have my king cornered and then tell me to try another move. I tried several times to get her to try chess but she'd have none of that.

bean_Fischer

What is the name of that Sicilian Defense in checkers?

PLAVIN81

Chess is a game of war=checkers is only a gameFrown

djbasson
daddyjordan22 wrote:

That's a bogus demand. Anyone with an introductory knowledge of both games can easily see why chess is more complex than checkers. Simply realizing that one game has multiple units of movement variance is enough to understand that is more complex than the other.

Would you say chess or go is more complicated? Smile

HessianWarrior

Be sure and give trophies away again so you can get this rehash of your other checker thread locked too. 

TheLastSupper

Checkers is already solved (perfect play = draw), chess is not (yet).

FireAndLightz

Checkers is.... I dont know. no chessgame is the same.

daddyjordan22

Djbasson, Go is more complicated than Chess to me but this is about checkers and chess.

Peter-Pepper
daddyjordan22 wrote:

Djbasson, Go is more complicated than Chess to me but this is about checkers and chess.

Djbasson was making the point that you cannot simply rely on the fact that chess has more variability in piece movements to say that chess is more complicated than checkers.

daddyjordan22

Peter, it wasn't that I didn't get what he was saying. But it's actually quite easy to determine that both games are played on the same surface and one uses the entire playing surface while one uses half, that one is using different units with different movement variance compared to the other with one general movement and a slight movement variance that if a promotion is enacted that piece can now move backwards in the same movement fashion. It'd be a crude similarity to say that chess is more complex than playing king and pawns. Is that really a contest when compared in complexity?

Go however plays on a 19x19 board unlike chess on a 8x8 board. With many more pieces, over double the squares, the complexity of Go uses a similar path that chess uses just by sheer numbers instead of piece movement variance. If you put chess on a bigger board with more pieces it'd once again be more complex than Go. But when directly comparing chess and checkers, using the unit movement variance alone is sufficient to determine that chess is the more complex game.

sou_HArdYoRaY

The best solution is....STOP BEING FRIENDS WITH STUPID PEOPLE!!!!