I do not believe this is how it works. First, an unrated player would be paired up in a very low section, and if he/she continues to lose, he/she will continue to play weak players. You get paired up the number of points you have(stronger sections get free points), and because the 1200 player is weak, he/she will not get enough points to play anyone strong, instead, the 1200 player will be trapped playing people in his level until he gets better.
Initial FIDE ratings can be manipulated and may not show true playing strength
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LOL U CAN PLAY UP...UNRATED can play in the open if they want
Dec 17, 2013
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The only way this is even theoretically possible is if you play a closed tourney, but no way would 6 gms just play you, unless
a) you are very close friends, or
b) you payed them a substantial amount of money.
BulletMatetricks wrote:
LOL U CAN PLAY UP...UNRATED can play in the open if they want
that hardly matters. the unrated player will still be paired with people with the same number of points, in other words, his own level.
cognismantis wrote:
BulletMatetricks wrote:
LOL U CAN PLAY UP...UNRATED can play in the open if they want
that hardly matters. the unrated player will still be paired with people with the same number of points, in other words, his own level.
lol ik that im just jk they will keep playing down if they lose...FIDE doesnt work like that
chesskingdreamer wrote:
The only way this is even theoretically possible is if you play a closed tourney, but no way would 6 gms just play you, unless
a) you are very close friends, or
b) you payed them a substantial amount of money.
I haven't spent any time hanging around with Carlsen, Anand, Kramnik, or any of those other guys who command seven figures for a title match.
But the GM's I've met would probably do it for beer.
cant those stronger players or GMs lose and get paired with the unrated player in question? That does happen, many higher rated players do end up in the bottom tables of open swiss paired tournaments...and in strong open GM tournaments, it is not impossible that u get to play 6 GMs out of 11 total rounds...if not GMs, u can get players rated above 2200 easily paired with you even if u lose 10 out of 11
no because their rating is so high that they just play the other high players that lost
Dec 17, 2013
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chesskingdreamer wrote:
The only way this is even theoretically possible is if you play a closed tourney, but no way would 6 gms just play you, unless
a) you are very close friends, or
b) you payed them a substantial amount of money.
Dec 17, 2013
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John_Stork wrote:
chesskingdreamer wrote:
The only way this is even theoretically possible is if you play a closed tourney, but no way would 6 gms just play you, unless
a) you are very close friends, or
b) you payed them a substantial amount of money.
I haven't spent any time hanging around with Carlsen, Anand, Kramnik, or any of those other guys who command seven figures for a title match.
But the GM's I've met would probably do it for beer.
Wow, only a beer? :D
i was using the FIDE calculators and also had a look at their handbook, since i wanted an estimate of my initial rating which i may achieve in the next tournament.
Ive observed that initial ratings are truly based on luck, that is, how many strong opponents u get to face, and not on how u play against them. Yes, u need to have one point against them, but after that, it all depends on chance.
An extreme example...a player plays his first tournament, and by chance gets to face two players rated 2000....predictably he loses both...then he plays a 1100 and beats him somehow...
Next he plays a strong grandmaster open tournament, where a lot of GMs are playing..he gets to play 6 GMs with average ratings of say 2650....no need to mention that he loses all very soon...
Well, we can congratulate him, since his initial rating is 2004..when all he has done is barely beat an 1100...he may be only 1200 or so, but now he has an impressive 2000 rating...
So players with the time and energy and an obsession for ratings can do it with a little effort...