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Ziryab
The_Krieg wrote:

IQ is meaningless.  lot of people with high IQ accomplish nothing

Thought you were leaving. Shouldn’t you be solving puzzles or something.

Nepotamy
Ziryab wrote:
buooyy wrote:

Hello,

I took a free IQ test and my score turned out to be 121. What is the maximum I could get in ELO

There is no upper limit for Elo, but if your test was accurate (online IQ tests never are), you are smarter than most GMs.

Lol. 121 IQ is higher than most GMs? 

Ziryab
Nepotamy wrote:
TheNameofNames wrote:

Why do you mfs keep going on about iq tests

IQ is correlated to chess skill. 

^weakly^
IQ is weakly correlated to chess skill

Nepotamy
IronSteam1 wrote:

Low-rated players tend to argue that IQ is the main factor, when it comes to chess strength.

High-rated players tend to argue that dedication, hard work, and experience are the main factors, when it comes to chess strength.

Choose who you want to believe ...

Where is your proof for this? I never said IQ is the most important factor, but it's needed to become a GM. It goes along with dedication, hard work, and experience.

87Classic
Nepotamy wrote:
IronSteam1 wrote:

Low-rated players tend to argue that IQ is the main factor, when it comes to chess strength.

High-rated players tend to argue that dedication, hard work, and experience are the main factors, when it comes to chess strength.

Choose who you want to believe ...

Where is your proof for this? I never said IQ is the most important factor, but it's needed to become a GM. It goes along with dedication, hard work, and experience.

And, really, you're arguing chicken & egg here. Numerous studies have shown that when chess is taught to children, their reading and math scores improve. IQ tends to fluctuate until reaching stability at a particular moment in life. There's fluid intelligence- your ability to solve novel problems, which peaks in young adulthood. Then there's crystalized intelligence- your ability to get better at what you already know, which improves until end of life (with the exception of dementia and other diseases of the elderly). 

Playing chess from a young age might be what boosts IQ until an age where IQ becomes stable.  This is why, as you get older, your odds of becoming a GM rapidly decline.

That's not to say one cannot become a GM late in life, it's just that it gets harder and harder to do.  My point is that Chess, when taught early enough, boosts IQ. Most people, yourself included, believe you must have a high IQ in order to be any good at Chess.

I mentioned yesterday, before you declined my challenge and hid behind an excuse, that IQ isn't as important as you think. It's true. You can have an IQ of 170, but if you don't get enough sleep, you're not going to memorize as many patterns. Sleep is important for memory formation. If you're not controlling your blood sugar, you'll develop nerve damage and your ability to think clearly goes out the window. If you have depression and anxiety, your ability to think clearly goes out the window. If you don't have many friends, that contributes to depression and anxiety, which then contributes to sleeping problems. It also contributes to smoking and doing drugs to escape feeling depression and anxiety. It's all connected.

 

You know what has a much stronger correlation with ELO than IQ? Privilege. Someone with an IQ of 102, who has all their needs met during those formative years can beat someone with an IQ of 170 whose life has been terrible.

87Classic
The_Shashophille wrote:
87Classic wrote:

IQ means nothing. Seriously. I have a high IQ and I can say that. It's not going to help you predict how great of a chess player you could become.

Here's what will:

Sleep

A good social support structure

Diet

Exercise

Whether or not you smoke

Whether or not you offload your short and long term memory tasks to your phone

How often you play chess

How old you are

Your state of mind

No IQ score is going to outweigh any of what I've listed. I don't care if you're Einstein or the bald guy from the movie "Powder."

this sentence contradicts itself. you say IQ means nothing and yet make us think what you're saying is credible because you have a high IQ

If I didn't have a high IQ, I wouldn't be able to tell you that a high IQ means nothing. If you don't take care of your needs, you're not going to get very far no matter how high your IQ is.

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MagnusCarlson202020212022
IQ HAS NOTHING. NO THING. NOT A THING TO DO WITH YOUR CHESS ELO. THE ONLY WAY TO GET BETTER IS TO GRIND AND WORK HARD
aoidaiki
Nepotamy wrote:
The_Shashophille wrote:

this sentence contradicts itself. you say IQ means nothing and yet make us think what you're saying is credible because you have a high IQ

It's like a very rich person saying that money doesn't bring happiness. 

But money doesn't bring happiness... it's lack of money that brings misery.

After you cross that threshold, which is fairly low* in terms of wealth , you're not miserable, but you're not happy either. Happiness has to come from somewhere else (spoiler, it doesn't come from outside things).

* the threshold is the ability to afford essentials like food and clothing, not helicopters and buildings

aoidaiki
IronSteam1 wrote:

Low-rated players tend to argue that IQ is the main factor, when it comes to chess strength.

High-rated players tend to argue that dedication, hard work, and experience are the main factors, when it comes to chess strength.

Choose who you want to believe ...

Low rated players think that when a high rated player beats them, it's because they had a great memory for opening lines, or the ability to see 10 moves ahead... this is a very self referential judgement because low rated players struggle to feel confident in the opening, and struggle to see where pieces can move.

... but that's now how high level chess works. A GM can play (and beat) 50 players at once... I guarantee the GM is playing fairly simple opening lines and calculating (much) less in each game than their opponent... the GM wins because they automatically consider good moves. It's the same reason they can play so well in 1|0 games. It's like batter hitting a home run or pick whatever sport you want... they're not thinking about how to move their body, it just happens automatically from the immense amount of practice.

Carlsen even said... he usually knows the move he'll play right away. Calculation is just double checking.

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Nepotamy
aoidaiki wrote:
Nepotamy wrote:
The_Shashophille wrote:

this sentence contradicts itself. you say IQ means nothing and yet make us think what you're saying is credible because you have a high IQ

It's like a very rich person saying that money doesn't bring happiness. 

But money doesn't bring happiness... it's lack of money that brings misery.

After you cross that threshold, which is fairly low* in terms of wealth , you're not miserable, but you're not happy either. Happiness has to come from somewhere else (spoiler, it doesn't come from outside things).

* the threshold is the ability to afford essentials like food and clothing, not helicopters and buildings

The more money you have, the more you can brag about it to everyone else. 

Nepotamy
MelvinGarvey wrote:

Now, for a joke, you may ask yourself, how does your IQ test result relates to the fact you asked that question.

No one cares about your opinions.

deadmemer1
Nepotamy wrote:
btickler wrote:
Nepotamy wrote:
87Classic wrote:
Nepotamy wrote:
TheNameofNames wrote:

Why do you mfs keep going on about iq tests

IQ is correlated to chess skill.

Hikaru's IQ is 102. Many different sources confirm this. And you're providing a good example of having a high IQ and not applying it. If many different sources are telling you the same thing, but you're not accepting it, it means you're not interested in what is true, you're interested in answers that make you feel good. You dismissed a comment from another user who also said Hikaru's IQ is 102. Clearly, IQ does not come close to predicting chess potential. If Hikaru's IQ is lower than yours, and he has a higher ELO than you, that means IQ isn't as important as you think.

Can't you see just how stupid you are sounding?

Oh, the irony.

How come you haven't played a game since 2014? Your most recent game is against a 300. LOL

Can't you see just how much like a sad abused puppy you are sounding?

deadmemer1
Nepotamy wrote:
MelvinGarvey wrote:

Now, for a joke, you may ask yourself, how does your IQ test result relates to the fact you asked that question.

No one cares about your opinions.

He didn't even give an opinion there genius

Nepotamy
deadmemer1 wrote:
Nepotamy wrote:
btickler wrote:
Nepotamy wrote:
87Classic wrote:
Nepotamy wrote:
TheNameofNames wrote:

Why do you mfs keep going on about iq tests

IQ is correlated to chess skill.

Hikaru's IQ is 102. Many different sources confirm this. And you're providing a good example of having a high IQ and not applying it. If many different sources are telling you the same thing, but you're not accepting it, it means you're not interested in what is true, you're interested in answers that make you feel good. You dismissed a comment from another user who also said Hikaru's IQ is 102. Clearly, IQ does not come close to predicting chess potential. If Hikaru's IQ is lower than yours, and he has a higher ELO than you, that means IQ isn't as important as you think.

Can't you see just how stupid you are sounding?

Oh, the irony.

How come you haven't played a game since 2014? Your most recent game is against a 300. LOL

Can't you see just how much like a sad abused puppy you are sounding?

What is your problem?

Nepotamy
deadmemer1 wrote:
Nepotamy wrote:
MelvinGarvey wrote:

Now, for a joke, you may ask yourself, how does your IQ test result relates to the fact you asked that question.

No one cares about your opinions.

He didn't even give an opinion there genius

What is your problem? Are you an alt? 

Nepotamy

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