IQ to chess skill, does it make a differnce?
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People with an Intelligence Quotient of 73 need support. You obviously don’t, since you wrote this post. I would be more confident if I were you, you’re doing great! I think it’s better to not be so focused on IQ when it comes to chess, although titled players often have high ones.
IQ tests for teenagers are different from tests for adults.
Batman2508 wrote:
I know it sounds really dumb but my IQ is 73, and USCF is 1700, if my IQ was higher would that mean, my chess rating would be more?
yeah i mean i never thought if that so idK LOL
JogoReal wrote:
IQ tests for teenagers are different from tests for adults.
Really?
Dec 26, 2020
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#46
IQ is a very imprecise measurement of intelligence, it's a rough guide, at best.
Dec 26, 2020
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#47
ItzMinnieCheckmates wrote:
People with an Intelligence Quotient of 73 need support. You obviously don’t, since you wrote this post. I would be more confident if I were you, you’re doing great! I think it’s better to not be so focused on IQ when it comes to chess, although titled players often have high ones.
hmmm ok, Me and my friend were talking about some scince fact things, hypothisis and prokayotes and eukayotes, i think I knew what i was talking about, maybe my IQ is 120?
Dec 26, 2020
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#48
Optimissed wrote:
NilsIngemar wrote:
They can read and they can see on this forum the discussion of IQ and chess ability. They have the ability to understand that much and question.
No.
Just asked my wife and she confirmed what I knew. Anything under 80 IQ is definitely abnormally low and, to some extent at least, "mentally handicapped". The Victorians had "idiot" for the worst cases, then, maybe "moron" and so on up to the first band under "normal" which was "simple minded". Such a person would have difficulty following even a slightly complex conversation and wouldn't be able to assign probable meanings to unknown words. IQ 73 is definitely within the range of "simple minded", so Batman went a little too low to be believable. Try 125 -130?
I think i used the wrong site, in my subjects i have straight a's except for french which is a b
ABC_of_EVERYTHING wrote:
Well taking iodine in the form of sea kelp or other sea vegetable can increase iq. You don't have to born genetically with high iq.
At a maximum you can only raise it maybe 15 iq points but its very hard
You may increase your IQ doing IQ tests, they are all like the same after all. Same way you increase your chess level by playing chess.
Optimissed wrote:
NilsIngemar wrote:
They can read and they can see on this forum the discussion of IQ and chess ability. They have the ability to understand that much and question.
No.
Just asked my wife and she confirmed what I knew. Anything under 80 IQ is definitely abnormally low and, to some extent at least, "mentally handicapped". The Victorians had "idiot" for the worst cases, then, maybe "moron" and so on up to the first band under "normal" which was "simple minded". Such a person would have difficulty following even a slightly complex conversation and wouldn't be able to assign probable meanings to unknown words. IQ 73 is definitely within the range of "simple minded", so Batman went a little too low to be believable. Try 125 -130?
In the US, a person must score 70 or below on IQ to get help from the government.
Most people have an IQ between 85 and 115. 75 is on the lower end but still able to function in society.
There are just as many people with IQ 70 to 75 as 125 to 130.
JogoReal wrote:
Who measured his IQ an why? Hardly anyone with an IQ 73 can play chess.
They voted for Biden easily enough. So chess could not be any more difficult than voting.
Dec 26, 2020
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#53
Does it really matter? I am no genius nor the village idiot....though some in my city might disagree. If you like to play, then play. For beginners, I do believe that quality in chess training and learning trumps quanity. You have to learn the proper universal fundamentals first.,,center, devolopment, king protection, establishing a plan, and knowing why you are doing, etc. Make sure you learn and observe from people who know the game, not patzers like myself. When I was younger, my dad taught me the proper way to play golf, but I chose to do my own thing. Needless to say I never got very good and haven't played golf in years. What ever folks do, they need to learn the proper basics first. There a millions of chess players, but not a lot of titled players. I would imagine hard work and dedication probably trumps a high IQ.
Dec 26, 2020
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#54
Pat_Zurr wrote:
Does it really matter? I am no genius nor the village idiot....though some in my city might disagree. If you like to play, then play. For beginners, I do believe that quality in chess training and learning trumps quanity. You have to learn the proper universal fundamentals first.,,center, devolopment, king protection, establishing a plan, and knowing why you are doing, etc. Make sure you learn and observe from people who know the game, not patzers like myself. When I was younger, my dad taught me the proper way to play golf, but I chose to do my own thing. Needless to say I never got very good and haven't played golf in years. What ever folks do, they need to learn the proper basics first. There a millions of chess players, but not a lot of titled players. I would imagine hard work and dedication probably trumps a high IQ.
Does anyone know if iQ and work ethic are related? It sure seems like the smarter people work harder and are more dedicated and focused on problem solving. A lack of intelligence seems to go along with a lack of motivation, a lack of drive, and laziness in general. I wonder how many super high iQ individuals are sitting in their parents basements trying to properly match random socks?
Dec 26, 2020
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#55
lol, I actually know and work with uber intelligent folks. Some of them are extremely "book smart" but lack common sense and social skills. I would not be surprised at all to hear that some of these high IQ folks never launched or fully reached their God given potentials.
Depression and drive are as God given as IQ.
Dec 26, 2020
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#57
IQ is only part of human mental functions. As the most easily observable and quantifiable function it is often mistaken for a measure of total human intellectual ability. Sheldon Cooper is a fictional embodiment of the oft-observed genius who cannot function in everyday life. Greta Thunberg, teen Nobel prize laureate and climate change activist, admittedly falters in everyday interpersonal relations. Einstein reportedly often needed to call his wife when he got lost on the streets of Princeton NJ so she could tell him how to get home.
IQ is only one small part of chess ability. Experience, knowledge of opening theory and endgame technique, ability to maintain maximum concentration for the whole game, and so on all factor in. The most important chess talents are visualization (being able to "see" clearly in your mind the position that will result following calculated variations) and visual memory (accurately recalling many previously seen and studied positions).
As Batman2508 can function well in school, his IQ is likely at least in the average (85-115) range. If you are that interested you can find places that will properly measure your IQ, but from personal experience I can testify that a high IQ does not neccessarily lead to success in chess or everyday life.
Dec 26, 2020
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#58
I guess the point I would make is that, geniuses and idiots play chess. Bobby Fischer had a genius level IQ. I believe it was 178. In reading and watching videos about him, it is pretty evident that their were not many folks out there who studied harder or worked harder to become world champion that he did. It was not his IQ by itself that got him to world champion. Whatever intelligence somone has may help, but I would imagine areas of the brain where people use pattern recognition and calculation would probably be helpful. Some people are verbally gifted, some mathematically, etc, so I think IQ in itself is not the end all.
ExploringWA wrote:
Pat_Zurr wrote:
Does it really matter? I am no genius nor the village idiot....though some in my city might disagree. If you like to play, then play. For beginners, I do believe that quality in chess training and learning trumps quanity. You have to learn the proper universal fundamentals first.,,center, devolopment, king protection, establishing a plan, and knowing why you are doing, etc. Make sure you learn and observe from people who know the game, not patzers like myself. When I was younger, my dad taught me the proper way to play golf, but I chose to do my own thing. Needless to say I never got very good and haven't played golf in years. What ever folks do, they need to learn the proper basics first. There a millions of chess players, but not a lot of titled players. I would imagine hard work and dedication probably trumps a high IQ.
Does anyone know if iQ and work ethic are related? It sure seems like the smarter people work harder and are more dedicated and focused on problem solving. A lack of intelligence seems to go along with a lack of motivation, a lack of drive, and laziness in general. I wonder how many super high iQ individuals are sitting in their parents basements trying to properly match random socks?
actually, the lazy people are the smart people! The smart people invent/do things which allow them to have a good life and be lazy! If someone is smart but not lazy, then he is either not that smart, or a researcher( math guy, science guy, or something like that)
ExploringWA wrote:
Pat_Zurr wrote:
Does it really matter? I am no genius nor the village idiot....though some in my city might disagree. If you like to play, then play. For beginners, I do believe that quality in chess training and learning trumps quanity. You have to learn the proper universal fundamentals first.,,center, devolopment, king protection, establishing a plan, and knowing why you are doing, etc. Make sure you learn and observe from people who know the game, not patzers like myself. When I was younger, my dad taught me the proper way to play golf, but I chose to do my own thing. Needless to say I never got very good and haven't played golf in years. What ever folks do, they need to learn the proper basics first. There a millions of chess players, but not a lot of titled players. I would imagine hard work and dedication probably trumps a high IQ.
Does anyone know if iQ and work ethic are related? It sure seems like the smarter people work harder and are more dedicated and focused on problem solving. A lack of intelligence seems to go along with a lack of motivation, a lack of drive, and laziness in general. I wonder how many super high iQ individuals are sitting in their parents basements trying to properly match random socks?
most of the superhighiq people are leading companies and being lazy in general
im only in 7th grade, thats terrible!
That explains it. Kids are useless dumb creatures who eat like pigs.
Once you grow up, you'll become smart, don't worry about it