Is 1.C3 a good move?

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DJ-KingstonK
Just wondering if c3 is good or not.
Laskersnephew
What do you think? Why ask us? You must have a good idea of what your aims are in the opening. Does 1.c3 help? Use your own judgement
tygxc

#1
Yes 1 c3 is a good move.
Black can play 1 e4 c6 and 1 d4 d5 2 c4 c6, so white can surely afford 1 c3.

FoxWithNekoEars

As white you have one more move so you can play practically anything as the first move and it doesn't make your position somehow really bad. I don't think that 1.c3 is a good move but chess would be boring if people played only good moves. I play 1.b3 for example and I profit from the fact that people often don't know the lines there as well as in normal openings...

tygxc

#6
AlphaZero ranks 1 c3 above 1 b3:
d4 > e4 > Nf3 > c4 > e3 > g3 > Nc3 > c3 > b3 > a3 >
h3 > d3 > f4 > b4 > Nh3 > h4 > Na3 > f3 > g4 > a4
Figure 31.
https://arxiv.org/pdf/2111.09259.pdf 

MaetsNori
DJ-KingstonK wrote:
Just wondering if c3 is good or not.

It's playable, sure. But I wouldn't call it "good".

Logically, the purpose of 1.c3 would be to support 2.d4.

But white can already play d4 on move 1, without needing any immediate support, so 1.c3 is kind of ... unnecessary, at best.

If the white c-pawn had an opening choice, it would prefer to move to c4, much of the time. c3 is more of an "only in specific scenarios" move.

Steven-ODonoghue

There are multiple ideas behind delaying an immediate d4. White may answer 1...c5 with 2.e4 and everything else with 2.d4, or he can even try to play 1.c3 independently - either as a reversed Gurginidze with 2.g3 3.Bg2 4.d4 or as a reversed Hanham Philidor or Black lion.

There is also the interesting Elshad system for white, which is 1.c3 2.Qa4 3.g4 against basically anything, which is just bad, but there was an entertaining book written about this system.

In regular chess, 1.c3 is about equal at best, but in 30 second and especially 15 second chess it is quite possibly the absolute best first move happy and is being used by many of the best ultrabullet and hyperbullet specialists.

medelpad

I faced it in a classical game and lost.

KieferSmith

No. 1. c3 is a terrible move as it does not help accomplish any of your goals in the opening:

Control the center: not good enough

Develop your pieces: only your queen, and takes away the c3 square for your knight

etc.

asto0239

1. c3 is a bad opening because, Control the center with 1.c4/d4/e4. Control over the center:bad. Development: bad. And the c3 square is ment for the knight

Chessflyfisher

I have experimented with it a few times with mixed results. Most of the time it just transposes into a type of Queen pawn game. I never got the chance to get into a Caro-Kann in Reverse. I was hoping to transpose, to be specific, into the C-K Reversed Advance variation.

hermanjohnell

There are better moves.