Is a knight or two pawns better in an endgame

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ChessWoman101

Maybe the knight, maybe to two pawns...

LM_player
3 pawns vs knight almost always wins.
2 pawns vs knight is about half win half draw
1 pawn vs knght is almost always a draw

(These are based off of my experience, they are not 100% accurate.)
Tja_05

It depends. Are there other pawns? Where is the knight in position relative to the pawns?

cellomaster8
I think it is a definite advantage if there are pawn majorities on both flanks. Of course it also depends on how many other pieces are in the board and the relative position of the Kings to each majority.
Rocky64

Obviously it depends on the position, but important considerations are how advanced are the Ps and whether they are weak or isolated. If they're well advanced and protected, that may force the player with the N to sac it for a P to stop its promotion, leaving the other side a P ahead, which may or may not be decisive. On the other hand, if the extra Ps are weak and not passed, the N could mop them up.

 

ChessWoman101
stuzzicadenti wrote:

ridiculous question...!

t is not ridiculous! You can win with a pawn, but not a knight! But knights are usually more active! it is a valid question.

Forkedupagain

You can only hope for a draw with knight.

Dsmith42

The less material that is left, and the further advanced/developed the pawns are, the more likely the pawns are better, but that is also true of a bishop and even sometimes a rook.  Where the Kings are matters, too.  And it is possible (certainly very rare, but I've seen it more than once) in some positions with a knight versus rook pawn for the knight to win.

 

In general, one of the pawns needs to be a protected passed pawn in order for victory to be reasonably possible.  The knight can't lose tempo, which is a weakness, but the King can, which makes it less of a problem, especially if the passed pawn is blocked.

 

If it is just the knight versus two pawns (no other pieces), it is best for the pawns to either be connected, or else as far from each other as possible.  The Knight's limited movement means it can cover only one side of the board, much like the King, so stopping two rook pawns can sometimes be harder than stopping a pair of pawns which are close together.

eric0022
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ChessWoman101
stuzzicadenti wrote:
ChessWoman101 wrote:
stuzzicadenti wrote:

ridiculous question...!

t is not ridiculous! You can win with a pawn, but not a knight! But knights are usually more active! it is a valid question.

 

YOU SUCK. DONT MAKE FUN OF PEOPLE WHEN YOU DONT EVEN HAVE ANYTHING TO SAY FOR YOURSELF

corum

If there are no other pieces or pawns then obviously K + p + p is better than K + N.

 

The reason is that apart from a few very unusual positions (as shown by eric0022 above) the player with the N cannot win and the player with the two pawns cannot lose. 

 

If there are other pieces or pawns then it depends on the position.

D2-D2
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D2-D2

eric0022 wrote:


Other than rare positions like the diagram above, two pawns are in general better than the knight,

 

It also depends on whether there are other pieces or pawns on the board. It could be the case of an endgame of a knight, bishop and two pawns versus a bishop and four pawns.

sorry that the quote is messed up😕

eric0022
D2-D2 wrote:
eric0022 wrote:


Other than rare positions like the diagram above, two pawns are in general better than the knight,

 

It also depends on whether there are other pieces or pawns on the board. It could be the case of an endgame of a knight, bishop and two pawns versus a bishop and four pawns.

??? 1 ... g1=Q!

 

Unfortunately I have never successfully quoted a chess board before, so chess boards do not appear in my quotes at all. Yours is already better than mine; I do not even have any part of the board in my quotes at all when I attempt to quote those quotes with diagrams.

 

In the diagram, I am just simply illustrating that there are possible checkmating positions for the lone knight, but we all simply know that, well, we can only dream of those positions and nothing more.

eric0022

 

Corum is right, it all depends on the position.

ChessWoman101
stuzzicadenti wrote:
ChessWoman101 wrote:
stuzzicadenti wrote:
ChessWoman101 wrote:
stuzzicadenti wrote:

ridiculous question...!

t is not ridiculous! You can win with a pawn, but not a knight! But knights are usually more active! it is a valid question.

 

YOU SUCK. DONT MAKE FUN OF PEOPLE WHEN YOU DONT EVEN HAVE ANYTHING TO SAY FOR YOURSELF

I will make fun of you for asking a ridiculous question !!!

It is completely reasonable. u don't have any place in this forum if you dont know what ur talking about

 

ChessWoman101

btw, thank you eric0022. ur completly right

FCHunter

it all depends on the position

ankitdj
Yes
ChessWoman101

If the position is closed, it would be best to have a knight. open, id prefer a bishop