Is blitz/Bullet no skill chess?

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Reaskali

Somebody told me Rapid is actual skill in chess. Of course, I did clown on him because it was rather stupid. I want to know your opinion if Blitz/Bullet is "real" chess. I play bullet or blitz because I hate waiting for other people. I ain't got all day since I'm a rather busy person. I'm not the fastest thinker either. 

I'm interested in other people's opinions though. Opinions will be respected unless it's an insult.

Wolfordwv1968

If you aren't good ; you won't succeed at speed chess. Bullet and blitz is still skill in my opinion. Most of the guys that whoop your @$$ in bullet would really mop the floor with ya in a longer format. That's my two cents😆

ryanovster

its not that its no skill, its just more for players who have honed their opening skills to a tee and dont make too many opening mistakes, once they pass the beginning part though, its open season for 99 percent of us.

PromisingPawns

Bullet is speed skills and blitz is a combination of both tactical eyesight and speed and keeping your nerves still at time pressure. I think if u are good at blitz,you can be good at rapid as well. Classical,not so much if you play blitz (what I experience now) but still... it's chess

ice_cream_cake

@ryanovster openings not so critical. i reached 1900 bullet on both this acct and my 2nd w/o having studied openings :D

arosbishop

All short forms of chess is chess skills in that special form of chess. But a lot of it is traps, swindles and tricks which only succeeds in that short time frame. Real chess will always be the classical formats with long reflection times. All the best fast chess players have a base as very good real chess players.

Cobra2721

Less skill than rapid yes by far

Cobra2721

Rapid you need a lot more long term strategy, endgame skill, opening theory and so on.

Blitz you need to be ok at chess but speed matters a LOT

Bullet is almost all tactics

Rapid chess is the closest to Classical by far, and classical is what will get you titles, so its the most important. Also analysing your rapid will improve cos u had time to think, blitz and bullet doesnt improve you

Cobra2721

So yeah rapid for improvement and fun, blitz for fun and bullet for... IDK what u get out of bullet, maybe fun to people who want chess to be a arcade game

Desri_18-12
ehm42 menulis:

Yep, I abandoned bullet because I realized nothing useful about it. I can't believe that 2000+ players waste time playing hours of it

Bla bla bla bla bla bla bla 🤡🤡

ghost_of_llama
ryanovster wrote:

once they pass the beginning part though, its open season for 99 percent of us.

Uh...

Not to be super rude or anything, but I'm not sure you could score 50% against me in 1+0, 3+0, or 5+0 with the handicap that I have to sac my queen for a pawn every game... I mean, I'm not experienced with such handicaps so I don't know... maybe I'd even win 10 in a row?

It's not about openings. It's the ability to see threats and organize pieces and calculate faster.

ghost_of_llama
GabGarbage wrote:

Somebody told me Rapid is actual skill in chess . . .

I'm interested in other people's opinions though.

People tend to respect whatever time control they like playing.

In general I guess the longer the time control, the more snobby people get about it... most people are nice of course, but I'm just saying you're more likely to hear someone say only 60 minute games and longer are serious chess vs someone saying only 60 second games are serious chess.

When looking at someone's profile I tend to look at the blitz rating first. That's just me though, there's nothing particularly special about blitz.

Cobra2721
ghost_of_llama wrote:
GabGarbage wrote:

Somebody told me Rapid is actual skill in chess . . .

I'm interested in other people's opinions though.

People tend to respect whatever time control they like playing.

In general I guess the longer the time control, the more snobby people get about it... most people are nice of course, but I'm just saying you're more likely to hear someone say only 60 minute games and longer are serious chess vs someone saying only 60 second games are serious chess.

When looking at someone's profile I tend to look at the blitz rating first.

Cos 60 second chess ISNT real chess...

Rapid is what is most similar to classicla

ghost_of_llama
cogadhtintreach wrote:
ghost_of_llama wrote:
GabGarbage wrote:

Somebody told me Rapid is actual skill in chess . . .

I'm interested in other people's opinions though.

People tend to respect whatever time control they like playing.

In general I guess the longer the time control, the more snobby people get about it... most people are nice of course, but I'm just saying you're more likely to hear someone say only 60 minute games and longer are serious chess vs someone saying only 60 second games are serious chess.

When looking at someone's profile I tend to look at the blitz rating first.

Cos 60 second chess ISNT real chess...

Rapid is what is most similar to classicla

From my point of view, rapid and blitz are the same when compared to OTB classical... a 3 minute game or a 15 minute game, they're basically played the same way.

Bullet is just for fun IMO, sure.

PromisingPawns

I agree with you llama, just a small correction, 3+2 is equal to 15min almost. 3min flat is just plain flagging I win about 70% of my games by flagging

Cobra2721
rupam44 wrote:

I agree with you llama, just a small correction, 3+2 is equal to 15min almost. 3min flat is just plain flagging I win about 70% of my games by flagging

3 + 2 is NOTHING to 15 min, not even close

PromisingPawns

Well, atleast in my case, i find the accuracy pretty close but sure 15mins is better as you get more time to think but Speedsters like us can still learn from blitz and improve

Cobra2721
rzizz wrote:

i hate when someone says bullet chess is not real chess 
IMO its just playing fast thinking fastly as many good moves u can

It isnt real chess, its mouse, internet and tactics

ghost_of_llama

The way I see it, the faster the time control, the less important the later stages become.

Certainly endgame knowledge is useful in every time control, but already in 15 minute games certain long term ideas become less important. It's advantageous to sacrifice positional / strategic elements for the sake of posing immediate problems... the more your opponent has to calculate, the more they'll get behind on the clock.

In one minute chess the endgame is essentially non existent. It's replaced by (for lack of a better term) the premove phase.

badger_song

Bullet chess is a different type with chess in regards to strategy. It's best to simply say it's a variant, with all that implies.