Is chess a sport? Ending the debate

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JeffGreen333 wrote:

Well, I'm not going to turn this post into a creation vs evolution debate or a Bible vs science debate.   However... 

 

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I agree with the idea that chess is a sport.

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BigKingBud wrote:

There is not ONE attribute of 'the game of chess' that qualifies as a physical characteristic that can be 'honed bodily'.  Chess is not a skill that you 'hone bodily', like throwing a baseball, a dart, or a bowling ball.

Exactly. As you say, "There is not ONE attribute of 'the game of chess' that qualifies as a physical characteristic that can be 'honed bodily.'"

However, there are the several aforementioned aspects of the sport of chess that must be honed if one wishes to play the sport.

Of course chess in itself isn't a skill that one hones bodily anymore than baseball is in and of itself. No one reduced it from sport down to a skill required to play a sport. Any attempt to argue that is only a strawman you've invented to avoid arguing against the proof already settled because that would be impossible to do successfully. However, like the sport of baseball, the sport of chess is comprised of physical exertion and skills which must be exercised in order to play the sport.

And that's even IF we decided to allow you to add on even additional definitions even though Chess was already proven sport long before you began to add yet additional qualifications once each opposing argument was refuted according to the originally agreed upon and generally accepted definitions of sport from credible sources.

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Somebody please just shoot learningthemoves and put him out of his misery.   lol   It's like watching a race horse hobble around with a broken leg.   It makes me very sad.   

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No, Learning. The word sport has a few different definitions, and applications.

1. Being a 'good sport' is one way to define the word  "The chess player was a good sport when he lost the chess game."
2. Sport can also be used to define 'the act' of wearing an article of clothing(and such). "He was sporting his red cap marvelously."  Or such..."He was sporting his new hunting rifle proudly on his shoulder"
3. Sport is also used in definition to explain movement.  "He sported about in his expensive, new car."

The way we are using the word sport 'here' is restricted to an individual activity, such as Log rolling, or Badminton (both actual sports).
There is no such a thing as "the sport of chess".
Chess is a game, a game that is honed in the mind.  Tournament chess is not a sport either,(it is only a tornament of the game of chess).
You are simply incorrect, there is no argument here.  There is just me spewing facts in a manner that an 8 year old could comprehend, and you making stuff up.
 

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BigKingBud wrote:

1. Being a 'good sport' is one way to define the word  "The chess player was a good sport when he lost the chess game."

This is the closest you will ever get to chess being a sport.   lol

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JeffGreen333 wrote:
ThrillerFan wrote:

Your first item (A) is totally debatable!  My wife will tell you that we came from evolution (apes), not creation.  So what says the chicken didn't evolve, or better yet, that the egg didn't evolve?

 And in the case of creation, what says a Chicken was created?  Maybe two eggs were created, one that of a Rooster, the other a Chicken!

Well, I'm not going to turn this post into a creation vs evolution debate or a Bible vs science debate.   However, the Bible answers that question to my satisfaction.   Also, consider that if two eggs were created first, then any other living animal could have eaten them before they hatched. God doesn't leave things to chance.   Besides, creating the eggs first would only have worked with egg-laying animals.   What about animals that give birth to live offspring or organisms that split in two?  

Nowhere in this passage are eggs mentioned:

Genesis 1:20 Then God said, “Let the waters abound with an abundance of living creatures, and let birds fly above the earth across the face of the firmament of the heavens.” 21 So God created great sea creatures and every living thing that moves, with which the waters abounded, according to their kind, and every winged bird according to its kind. And God saw that it was good. 22 And God blessed them, saying, “Be fruitful and multiply, and fill the waters in the seas, and let birds multiply on the earth.”

 

LOL - God definitely laid an egg!  Therefore Adam and Eve must have hatched!

 

If you don't believe God laid an egg, then why do I hear women saying "God created man, realized he made a mistake, and created woman!"

 

If God made a mistake, then he definitely laid an egg there now, didn't he!  LOL!

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ThrillerFan wrote:

LOL - God definitely laid an egg!  Therefore Adam and Eve must have hatched!

If you don't believe God laid an egg, then why do I hear women saying "God created man, realized he made a mistake, and created woman!"  If God made a mistake, then he definitely laid an egg there now, didn't he!  LOL!

I won't even dignify this with an answer.    smh

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farmmouse wrote:

the elipsis requires a thought before and after otherwise what is the meaning of the pause ?

It's an expression of complete dumbfoundedness/speechlessness. 

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Now we're debating English punctuation?   This is right up my alley.  grin.png   

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farmmouse wrote:

language is a living thing.

it is, in the short term aborted thru ignorant slang and culture  ( " hey bro ",

 or "she is my "ho" ) and other low ugly terms of the sub-class.

the ...elipsis...is also a development.

in the cognoscente it denotes the observation that those who might have the ability to read, or more likely, to have someone read to them what is printed, that the better educated have removed themselves from the slovenly cretins of modern times.

the elipsis..is an old pattern of distance.

...i think...i think...you read...in the elipsis...what i think you do not know.

hence, i hand you your hat and coat and my butler shows you out the door and you condescendlying say to him, "thank you, jeeves" and since he is both my butler and my library friend and childhood playmate, he sais back to you " goodnight....sir."

 

..the elipsis is the pause in the thought, in the insult, in the moment of time where the speaker, the reader, the writer and the listener try to understand the meaning of context.

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How can anyone take this comment seriously, when you have so many capitalization, grammar, punctuation and spelling errors in the post?   tongue.png   

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Some say the dinosaur came before the chicken, wait, didn't they?
Image result for trex bird Well, look at that!  Some scientist has figured it all out, and drawn a picture of it. Sold!

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BigKingBud wrote:

Some say the dinosaur came before the chicken, wait, didn't they?
 Well, look at that!  Some scientist has figured it all out, and drawn a picture of it. Sold!

There's something odd about the one in the middle though.  Is it a bird or a reptile?   lol   Cross-family evolution?   Please.  

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Magnus Carlsen is competing in sports, both sports and chess. He has been playing some matches for a football team in fifth division in Norway.

GM Simen Agdestein was a stronger sportsman, with 8 footballmatches for Norway.

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farmmouse wrote:

no...it a place where the reader or listener fills in what the speaker or writer was saying without saying,....understand....?

Ellipses have many uses; my usage of them (to indicate my sheer disbelief at the levels of stupidity in this thread) has precedent, as far as I'm aware. I have seen them used in this manner many times before; perhaps this is not standard or widespread. If not, I apoligze for my misuse of language. Of course, my own linguistic mistake is nothing compared to the post you called me out on it with, let alone this whole thread. These forums are the nightmare/wet dream of a grammar nazi. 

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DoctorKraken42 wrote:

There are many arguments for why chess is a sport, including:

It bears almost all the characteristics of games that are definitely sports, such as basketball, baseball etc. Physicality is the ONLY thing missing.

 

Yeah, that whole "physicality thing missing", 'that' is why chess is not a sport.  Ya got it eh? 

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A better question might be "Is chess a board game or an athletics event ?"

I mean it could be easier to answer.

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Chess may not quite fit the classical definition of sport, but I certainly think of it as one.

 

Like any sport, you train and then go compete against others. It may not be directly physical, but as I'm sure has been pointed out multiple times in this thread, Fischer himself talked about how he would workout and get in shape specifically "for the chess."