Is chess the most deceiving game? Are you a chess addict? Why?

First of all please don't translate these words for a professional player who uses his whole life to understand and memorize the best tactics. Let's speak about amateurs, which are I guess 90% of the players in the world. Let's not speak about the 10% (more or less)

When you do it right, you do it wrong.
When you do a good move, it's mostly gonna bad move.
If you do a bad move, it can really be a winning move.

This said, I came to the conclusion that chess is one of the worst games ever created.

I mean ONLINE CHESS.   If I imagine myself playig 200 years ago, it could really have been a great game.

 I do have fun when playing with a physical board.   But internet totally ruined it.   People now just use engines to memorize everything, therefore if you mostly win it's ONLY because you memorized.     And you call this a sport? 

Sport means adaptation to the moment, it means having creativity, a sport means sweating when fighting either with an opponent, or with yourself (tennis or golf two great examples)
No you can't adapt when you do something "wrong" in the first moves, because you all see the "black\white" engine bar can immensely drop or raise with just a single move.

Honestly, all I see now is just memorizing.   I'm so sad for all the people that spend thousand of hours to memorize something... what for? To WIN a game!!   That's EVERYTHING BUT what sportsmanship and fairplay means.  

Please don't misunderstand me, I love the way this game (NOT a sport) was created. 

But chess nowadays has become one of the worst playable online games. 

If you can do something to change my mind, I will gladly accept it but I'm not asking for it.

I just want to freely share my opinion.  I'm not a stupid person, I don't need to tell you my background because it would just mean "pump up my ego".    Just believe me, I'm not a fool. 

I'm here just to tell you, stay very alert, because your need to win and pump up your endorphines (winning a game does the same effect of receiving many "likes" on one of your social posts, that's why we do it) can very possibly lead to mental problems in the long run.   Please stay alert, this is a deceiving game in which whatever you do, you WILL lose and it will harm your brain unless you are a very special and enlightened person. But in that case, I think an enlightened person will not play chess.

Take care friends.

This was also posted 1 hour ago on lichess, and it does sound a bit like suggestive rhetoric  

yes, yes. I play chess because it's a bad game but at least im better in chess than i am in the other things I do.

If all you see in chess is memorizing, well, I suppose you'd be better off not playing chess. You greatly exaggerate the importance of memorizing theory, much like Judd Mulvaney.

It's kinda funny friend, because you are exactly confirming what I said, without realizing it.  Thank you for it.

Chess adiction doesn't exist. That's pseudoscience propagated by people who don't know what addiction is. Addiction is not when you do something a lot or when you like doing it.

You memorize lots of things in daily life. You memorize multiplication tables. You memorize random facts. You memorize your memories, to some extent. 

Top players memorize a lot of theory, yes, but they also understand the game on a much higher level. You can complain about all the memorizing top level players do to win a game, but most of the time, you only get a slightly better position with that memorization. What then? There is still plenty of chess to be played. It is not all memorization, and even less so at amateur levels.

My OTB rating is expert. What I memorize are positional ideas and strategies, which helped me get where I am. If that is what you mean, then of course chess is all about memorization. In that case, though, it is no different from any other aspect of life. If you mean memorizing theory is what wins games at amateur level, you are completely wrong.

No friend, an addiction is when you do something because with the lack of it, you don't feel as good.     Most of us amateurs play chess because, a part from liking it, the winning gets you a release of dopamine. Just like getting many likes on a post or a comment. It's exactly the same as when you drink wine\beer for someone who is used to do it, or smoking cannabis for someone who is used to do it, or coffee, and so on.          Now tell me, have you ever stopped playing a chess session when you lose?  If your last game is a lost one, you leave with a bad feeling and it will persist for "tot" minutes, depending on the character of the person.    Most people will like playing the finishing game with a win.   WHY????  Because it's an addiction, simple as that. Most people, especially because of the pandemy, joined chess to kill time.  Now why you would ever want to kill with something that doesn't give you a "reward"?  we're like dogs, we need cookies. Our cookie is beating someone, and please don't deny me that, you perfectly know it. This means most of us don't play chess because its chess, we play chess because it's just a device that can let us release some dopamine and feel "uplifted". Nothing more.

To answer NoNameOfNames, I'm sorry friend but you're very wrong.  Doing something because it gives off a reward means is an animal behavious, exactly like dogs.  We're not dogs. If you love someone, you love because you love, not because it gives a reward.  If you enjoy playing music, you do it because you love it, not because it gives a reward.  If we play chess, we should be playing it because we love\enjoy it, not because it gives a reward.  This is the total proof that we don't play a "sport" or a game (Chess is not a sport") because we enjoy it. We play chess because it's simply a device to let us release dopamine\happiness with victory.  This means that when you lose, you get exactly the opposite effect. Problem is , when chess you are always going toward a loss, no matter what, because there is no logic in it. 

I enjoy playing it, but i've been analyzing the psychological and logic of it, and  I can safely say, chess has no logic because the math behind it is trillionaire.  It means our brain simply cannot understand it, unless we memorize what is written in books and from past games. That's it. There's no other logic in it as every move is dependant on the next move, which in turn is dependant on the next move, which is again dependant on the next move, and so on.   This is why professionals play on another level. Because they simply have studies their whole life books and past game, and they made them "standards". But there is no standard in chess, at all.  If you can't follow this, I'm sorry friends. 

Anyway, enjoy the game.

And please all of you keep in mind my words are directed to ONLINE CHESS.   Playing an a physical board is a total different experience, and in my honest opinion, the REAL and most beautiful experience of Chess.

Maybe too lazy to read it all, or maybe I totally hit the spot.  I'm glad if someone can change my mind but I really guess not.

TLDR: If you're very good at chess, it simply means you played it a LOT. Nothing more than that.

I'm a person who thinks a lot, I love strategy games , I've always played them.  But no, chess implies just a little bit of strategy, the rest is only memorization and getting used to "already seen patterns".  Nothing more.  I'm sorry if you guys feel attacked but hey, I'm a chess player too.  I'm just trying to see it from an outside perspective.

There's no intelligence at all involved in chess. No IQ required. No "adaptation strategy" at all. 

You either make a mistake or not but THIS is when the deceiving comes in:

excluding blunders here's how it goes:

Your bad\good move will only be so AFTER your opponent plays.

And when your opponent plays the move, it will either be a good or a bad one ONLY AFTER you played the next move.

That next move you play... is it a good or a bad one?? well guess what, only your opponent's next move will prove it a good or a bad move.

Then when your opponent plays again, HIS move will say if your move has been a good or bad move.

Can you see where I'm going?
It's a rabbit hole, and no wonders professional players have mental problems.

You want to be one of them? For a game?  

Totally agree with this . If you're good at chess, it's mainly because you played it a lot.and that's disappointing. Unfortunately that's true for a lot of things. I guess we just have to decide if we want to become better at chess or at something else I think I indeed shoul spend my time better :/

I absolutely, totally agree with your words.   We're basically saying the same thing, just from a different point of view.

This is the best post in this topic so far.