4gotten_legend wrote:
this thread is a total nonsense
But people really believe it.
Is chess unconsciously support racism?
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which is pretty scary.
Jun 6, 2020
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#84
Who really believes chess is unconsciously racist?
I suspect even the OP doesn't believe that. It's just a way to grab attention.
Jun 6, 2020
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#86
Maybe you mean that as a joke, but she (a psychiatrist who has studied white supremacy behavior) makes an interesting point, and it has nothing to do with chess. Starting at 3:40
She argues it from an evolutionary standpoint.
Jun 6, 2020
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#87
i think there's a delay in the upcoming block. i'm announcing in advance.
What I think is that anyone who thinks that way shouldn't be totally sane to bring such a discussion to chess. Did you read what you just suggested? Don't do this, buddy. Don't propagate childishness around here. You are suggesting a racial discussion for simple colors of chess pieces. Don't be unpleasant. And if someone feels bad, remember that chess is not patented; create your own version of chess on another website and take these silly discussions there.
Chess is like real life. White always goes first and black is always on the defensive. Black is always fighting for equality, and white has to make a mistake or else black will never get anywhere.
goldenwriter wrote:
remember it was very long ago when this game was made and there wasnt that much racism back then.(i think)
Wasn't the game invented in India thousands of years ago? Even back then they faced religious and class persecution, which was perpetuated by the British for their modus operandi of "divide and conquer", but would not have been possible had the Indians not already had deep rooted conflicts amongst themselves.
goldenwriter wrote:
what other colors do you want? green? blue?
remember it was very long ago when this game was made and there wasnt that much racism back then.(i think)
If chess came from India then perhaps issues with skin color were around back then. India has its issues with dark skin. I also hear some hotels in places like Thailand aren't welcoming to darker skinned people.
But leaving race and symbolism aside, everybody loves the colour white.
Also, people aren't black. Very few people are actually black, it's a rare occurrence. People are darker shades of brown. There are darker shades of everything out there in the world and everybody loves it. Trees, Brown. Dark green leaves. Crimson sunsets.
Jun 6, 2020
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#94
Malogier wrote:
It is complete insanity to bring this topic here. Just look in the mirror and decide what you see - chess player or someone who push racism of some sort.
Insanity - that's what we do best!
Jun 6, 2020
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#95
Malogier wrote:
It is complete insanity to bring this topic here. Just look in the mirror and decide what you see - chess player or someone who push racism of some sort.
+1
Jun 6, 2020
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#96
llama44 wrote:
long_quach wrote:
Religion is just another form of race. My people vs. You people.
In some sense that's true, but only if you leave out all the details. Religion is an ideology.
For example, this leads some people to argue that there's no such thing as a Christian child or a Muslim child. They're not developed enough to understand an ideology to believe in it... but obviously children have race.
Forcing a child to be religous should be illegal. It violates the freedom of religion law.
Even cults have legal departmants now, so good luck with that.
Jun 6, 2020
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#98
dfgh123 wrote:
Even cults have legal departments now so good luck with that.
Suing people should also be illegal.
An_asparagusic_acid wrote:
llama44 wrote:
long_quach wrote:
Religion is just another form of race. My people vs. You people.
In some sense that's true, but only if you leave out all the details. Religion is an ideology.
For example, this leads some people to argue that there's no such thing as a Christian child or a Muslim child. They're not developed enough to understand an ideology to believe in it... but obviously children have race.
Forcing a child to be religous should be illegal. It violates the freedom of religion law.
As a kid (pre-teen), I went to church every Sunday, and got to sit in on a lot of events and stuff. I remember they used to play some religious cartoons on TV during the weekends and that was cool. I think the basic message to do good and to have faith in good is great.
I don't think many kids are bombarded with the semantics of the religion unless we're talking about Amish people and stuff.
Jun 6, 2020
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#100
WSama wrote:
An_asparagusic_acid wrote:
llama44 wrote:
long_quach wrote:
Religion is just another form of race. My people vs. You people.
In some sense that's true, but only if you leave out all the details. Religion is an ideology.
For example, this leads some people to argue that there's no such thing as a Christian child or a Muslim child. They're not developed enough to understand an ideology to believe in it... but obviously children have race.
Forcing a child to be religous should be illegal. It violates the freedom of religion law.
As a kid (pre-teen), I went to church every Sunday, and got to sit in on a lot of events and stuff. I remember they used to play some religious cartoons on TV during the weekends and that was cool. I think the basic message to do good and to have faith in good is great.
I don't think many kids are bombarded with the semantics of the religion unless we're talking about Amish people and stuff.
Most religious parents force their kids to go to a house of worship.
Sure, some people use good movements (like wanting equality) to promote bad things (like victimhood). So it's not either one or the other. There is good to movements like this (I hope that's obvious).
You say if the police killed an innocent white man no one would care... but I think that's the point. They would care. The officer would likely be charged and punished. Meanwhile when a minority is beaten or killed it's overlooked, and when it's not overlooked people bring up things like their criminal record to demonize the victim.
For example, if a white person had died would you say "yeah, but he was a felon"? Or would you say the officer was a POS?
Since you're such a believer why don't you just go and live in the worst predominately black neighborhoods and try to perform some liberal "uplift" and see what happens? Oh, you don't want to live in gang and drug-infested 'hoods? Hmm...that seems hypocritical. You maintain blacks are not criminals and only other races are bad. So what's the problem? Play some chess in Crenshaw with a big smile on your face, do it on the street around midnight. Spread the "love." See what happens. Good luck.
Nobody's denying the existence of bad neighborhoods and bad individuals. The residents of those neighborhoods have been crying out for a very long time.
Those people you see taking the time to march out there, they're trying to do something about it and they don't have much help in that department. What they do get is criticism, however. They're the ones trying to change things. They're educating themselves about the truth, and they're pushing forward against the obstacles. It's a work in progress.
Do you know how many people out there are seeing psychiatrists and counselors these days? You just might be one of them. Patients are getting younger and younger these days - they are on all sorts of medications. Would you deny the reality of their problems? Bear in mind that most people seeking professional help are rather well off.
The damage is real. Everybody, from those spewing hate speeches to those swallowing hard, it's real. People are trying to change things today.