Pyotrvich wrote:
- Would his working relationship with chess.com be discontinued if he was not kicked for cheating?
TigerLilov still gets plenty air-time...
Is it possible for a human to beat an engine without another engine?
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Aug 13, 2017
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gambit-man wrote:
HungryHungry wrote:
...I mean, this is the guy who beat Kasparov in the world blitz championships, this is the guy who calculates faster than Tal. This is the guy who goes 3-0 against Kasparov in blitz training games and then Kasparov has to play until he wears Dlugy down and starts winning games. This is the world's best blitz player period and one of the best players in the world in classical time controls.
do you have a source for this information?
I trained with him for quite a while. Also, you can find Dlugy's history on the internet. He is still widely considered the best blitz player in the world. He's 50+ years old and can still go toe to toe with Magnus Carlsen in bullet.
Aug 13, 2017
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This discussion belongs in the Cheating Forum, not here.
Thread locked.
Aug 13, 2017
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To answer the question.
No, probably not. Currently the top engines (on adequate hardware) are too strong even in closed strategical positions to be beaten.
They can still be beaten in time/material odds or on weak hardware, but then the question is not really whether the engine can be beaten by man - but rather what arbitrary limitation you need to put on the computer to make it beatable.
Against a smartphone, or an older laptop, or a dulled down javascript stockfish like the one used for analysis here then yes probably humans could score a point or two given enough games. Especially if you limit how long the computer is allowed to calculate on each move.
What you call "truth" is a lot of inaccurate information and a complete misunderstanding of how to evaluate statistics. That said, the rest cannot be discussed on the open forums without getting the thread locked.
Humor me. In a private message if breaking the forum rules doesn't sit well with you.
Which of my arguments do you disagree with?
- Would he have been kicked if there was any doubt?
- Would his working relationship with chess.com be discontinued if he was not kicked for cheating?
- As mentioned, would the tournament article pretend he never played in the event if he played clean?
- Would he go from being an active member on the site with thousands of games played to none at all if nothing happened?
- Were his games not unrealistically accurate?