Is it really possible to become a chess master in 5 years?

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    Yes,it is. Reshevsky and Fischer both proved this...and more.But you probably are not addressing the "prodigy"issue.You are prob wondering if "Joe Static" can go from novice to master in five years.You don't have to be a prodigy to make this happen.But you almost certainly will need a good teacher to critique/develop your style,repertoire of openings and defences,and provide OTB experience. It only takes work,willingness to focus,and a little smidgeon of "killer intstinct" :) .

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see the thing is, even if anyone COULD do this with enough work.  how many people will work hard enough for it!?

I do not doubt MANY people could improve tons and tons if they played chess and studied their loses; tactics, basic endgames....I'm even more sure that MOST PEOPLE WON'T.

I'm as addicted to chess as I have to anything and I wounder if I really am willing to hard enough to see real and lasting chess improvement. its easier to talk about than do...

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It seems to me that there is a psychological motivation for thinking it's impossible.  Because, if it is, then people don't have to feel guilty for not working harder to achieve this goal.

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10,000 hours of organized and dedicated study/training/competition, within a 5 year period.

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Also it depends how autistic you are. Generally the further along the autism spectrum you are, the better you can be, as your brain is not spending as much resources on other types of thinking or modes of thought.

this is why you find many Aspies and Introverts in the chess world, it suits their mind and lifestyle.

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I played my first rated chess in 1973 at age 20 and my first uscf rating was under 1300 .  It took me 11 years to make NM but there were several years that I couldnt make more than 2 or 3 tournies so I didnt get to play a lot due to having a life and associated responsibilities and the fact that there was little opportunity in the area in which I was living/working . 

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GreedyPawnEater wrote:

what 5 years are you talking about? i've been playing occasionally for about 3 years and already have reached master strength

Bollocks.

When someone claims how many years they've been playing you take day one as learning what the pieces do. So you're saying, in 3 years from being introduced to chess and playing "occasionally", you're an expert?

Such an ego yet you can't start a sentence with a capital letter or terminate one with a full stop and you're claiming you're some prodigy. Something stinks about your statement.

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It's not about when you start because if you start late you can still have a natural talent for the game. But if you started playing at, say, 11 years old, and at age 21 you are 1600, I would say there's really not much hope. On the other hand, if you're 2000 at 21, you might just make it in time.

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To be completle honest guys....Im studying chess since 10 years everyday several hours and still cant break 1200 also so ye...

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Could you share your schedule? I am on the 1300-1400 level and I play chess for quite a few years.

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gamesfan -- I think you need to clear about what your goal is (perhaps you are).  Are you going for a true FM or IM title, or are you looking to pass some specific milestone in online chess?  If you want to earn a real title then you should go sign up for your local club, make lots of real life chess friends, and learn to play real chess (meaning slow time controls).  

Study and practice tons of tactics, learn how to calculate, learn the endgame, and pick an opening repertoire (there are lots of complete repertoire books out there...just pick one and stick with it).  Learn how to analyze your games, and try to learn from your mistakes.

If you play in regular local club games (say at least one a week) and compete regularly in local tournaments (say one a month), coupled with self-analysis and regular study, you should have no problem reaching master in 5 years.  Play more often and study more often, and I'm sure you could do it in under 5 years.  Just don't forget diet and exercise is very important, too!

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Doirse schreef:

If you play in regular local club games (say at least one a week) and compete regularly in local tournaments (say one a month), coupled with self-analysis and regular study, you should have no problem reaching master in 5 years.  Play more often and study more often, and I'm sure you could do it in under 5 years.  Just don't forget diet and exercise is very important, too!

This must be slightly too simple, after all there are lots of people doing exactly this and only very few of them ever make master.

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Very very improbable.

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I know lots of people in my local club who do some of it -- they play every week, and compete every month (or more) -- and make little/no progress.  The president of my club, in fact, has been president for 5 years and was a member for another 10 before that, and he has played in thousands of club and tournament games but has never passed the 1800 mark.  He doesn't care, he just enjoys the game and being in the club.  

What he doesn't do is seriously analyze his losses, identify his weaknesses, and study/practice.  You need both.  (and you need the will to win) 

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I think I have that. All of that. Just not the time.

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MuhammadAreez10 wrote:

I think I have that. All of that. Just not the time.

I hear you!  The biggest problem for my own chess progression is life.  Apparently children need food, clothes, and sometimes toys to play with, or they get grumpy.  My wife says she needs those things too :)  And my boss says he won't pay me to play chess.

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Doirse wrote:

gamesfan -- I think you need to clear about what your goal is (perhaps you are).  Are you going for a true FM or IM title, or are you looking to pass some specific milestone in online chess?  If you want to earn a real title then you should go sign up for your local club, make lots of real life chess friends, and learn to play real chess (meaning slow time controls).  

Study and practice tons of tactics, learn how to calculate, learn the endgame, and pick an opening repertoire (there are lots of complete repertoire books out there...just pick one and stick with it).  Learn how to analyze your games, and try to learn from your mistakes.

If you play in regular local club games (say at least one a week) and compete regularly in local tournaments (say one a month), coupled with self-analysis and regular study, you should have no problem reaching master in 5 years.  Play more often and study more often, and I'm sure you could do it in under 5 years.  Just don't forget diet and exercise is very important, too!

Well, I am not sure how it works. From what I understand, you become a master once you reach 2300 rating. I would like to be a real titled player. But of course, that does not mean I am capable of becoming one.

I intend to join a chess club. But I want to join once I am a good player.

Thank you for your advice. I don't really know how to improve my calculating of moves and how to analyze my games well.

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"I intend to join a chess club. But I want to join once I am a good player."

A bit of a catch 22 situation though. You become a good player by joining a club and doing the things mentioned above. 

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gamesfan wrote:

Well, I am not sure how it works. From what I understand, you become a master once you reach 2300 rating. I would like to be a real titled player. But of course, that does not mean I am capable of becoming one.

I intend to join a chess club. But I want to join once I am a good player.

Thank you for your advice. I don't really know how to improve my calculating of moves and how to analyze my games well.

You should find out which system you are in (if you're really in Slovenia, it's probably FIDE?), and you can go to their website and find out the requirements for the various titles.  

Anyone is capable of achieving a title with enough hard work.  You do have the talent, I know you do.

Don't wait to join a club.  Online chess and otb are different things.  You can become "a good player" here on chess.com, but that wont necessarily directly translate into being a good player when faced with another human being.  Go join your local club now.  Right now!

To learn how to calculate read my blog :)

To learn how to analyze your own games try these resources:

 
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Maybe there has already been a study or more that I've not come across but why hasn't there been a study or two to see what the most effective methods to improve your chess are? With so much information and technology these days I'm sure a study like that would help a bunch of eager or willing to learn players get the most out of their "chess time" and get solid, reliable results for their efforts. How come Chess.com or someone here use willing chess.com members to do some type of study on it? I bet it'd be well received by the community and get a lot of participating members for it!