Is Kramnik really a patzer?

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MSC157

achja, this is interesting, thanks!

trotters64
TheGreatOogieBoogie wrote:
trotters64 wrote:
FanOfCarlsen wrote:

Define Patzer.. How stupid.. He is ex-world champ and any tom-dick-harry like trotters64 calling him Patzer.. LOL.. Please close this stupid thread.. 

Even your idol Carlsen says that Kramik thinks way too highly of Kramnik's abilities .Incidentally ,you said that Kramnik is an ex-world champ;I think the word EX is very much the operative word in Kramnik's case.

Because just anyone can dethrone Kasparov... right?  You try beating someone who can crush CMs and FMs in simuls for the title.  Kasparov may have been past his prime during the math but was still world class. 

No doubt you are right ; Kasparov was past his prime in that match and right now Kramnik is way ,way past his prime; of that there can be no doubt.

Second_to_Nunn
3kush3 wrote:

trotter4 has thrown the bait and everyone is biting..Lulz

Even a genius gets tempted when face an idiot... I don't remember who said that.

trotters64
Second_to_Nunn wrote:
3kush3 wrote:

trotter4 has thrown the bait and everyone is biting..Lulz

Even a genius gets tempted when face an idiot... I don't remember who said that.

Well it wasn't you Einstein.

trotters64
Synaphai wrote:

Every World Champion blundered in his chess career. Carlsen, for example, lost badly to Giri in Wijk aan Zee 2011. Avoiding this key counteragument by pretending that "he blundered like a buffoon and that's the end of it" is synonymous with "he is a patzer" and "time for Kramnik to retire" is cheap and logically erroneous.

I think that you are incorrect  to quote me as saying "he is a patzer" and "time for Kramnik to retire" for you are misquoting me in both instances: Firstly the title of this  forum topic does not assert that Kramnik is a patzer ; I merely pose the question. Secondly, I also added a question mark to my statement "time for Kramnik to retire ?". 

Let's try for accuracy next time ....thank you.

Synaphai
trotters64 wrote:
Synaphai wrote:

Every World Champion blundered in his chess career. Carlsen, for example, lost badly to Giri in Wijk aan Zee 2011. Avoiding this key counteragument by pretending that "he blundered like a buffoon and that's the end of it" is synonymous with "he is a patzer" and "time for Kramnik to retire" is cheap and logically erroneous.

I think that you are incorrect  to quote me as saying "he is a patzer" and "time for Kramnik to retire" for you are misquoting me in both instances: Firstly the title of this  forum topic does not assert that Kramnik is a patzer ; I merely pose the question. Secondly, I also added a question mark to my statement "time for Kramnik to retire ?". 

Let's try for accuracy next time ....thank you.

Considering the viciousness of your previous Kramnik-related thread, it's safe to assume that you believe both of those thing, even if you didn't use those exact words.

Now, go back to producing your 1500-level "masterpieces".

Ubik42

So....Kramnik is a patzer?

trotters64
Synaphai wrote:
trotters64 wrote:
Synaphai wrote:

Every World Champion blundered in his chess career. Carlsen, for example, lost badly to Giri in Wijk aan Zee 2011. Avoiding this key counteragument by pretending that "he blundered like a buffoon and that's the end of it" is synonymous with "he is a patzer" and "time for Kramnik to retire" is cheap and logically erroneous.

I think that you are incorrect  to quote me as saying "he is a patzer" and "time for Kramnik to retire" for you are misquoting me in both instances: Firstly the title of this  forum topic does not assert that Kramnik is a patzer ; I merely pose the question. Secondly, I also added a question mark to my statement "time for Kramnik to retire ?". 

Let's try for accuracy next time ....thank you.

Considering the viciousness of your previous Kramnik-related thread, it's safe to assume that you believe both of those thing, even if you didn't use those exact words.

Now, go back to producing your 1500-level "masterpieces".

You sir are the master of the melodramatic...you might have heard of a famous American actress called Bette Davis...you are just like her:over the top in feeling on this matter;I merely ask that if you are going to use my words against me I would prefer that you did so with accuracy so that no misunderstanding ensues...now about your point that I have been vicious toward Kramnik; this is an example of going over the top with your fake outrage...you are obviously a drama queen.

Now , get back into your pram and stop being such a silly boy .

Superqueen500

Pretty much

MSC157

Pretty much you just started following chess.

blueemu

I wish that I was a ~2800-rated world-class patzer like Kramnik

SmyslovFan

Kramnik is playing on the top board of the top seeded team in the tournament. Sure, he's having a bad year. But even at the end of it, he will be +2700 and one of the most dangerous players on the planet. 

I sure wish I were a patzer like Kramnik.