Is there such thing as "luck" in chess?

Not exact synonyms, as supernatural supposes the existence of forces--such as the gods--outside of nature, while paranormal simply means outside of our normal understanding. Things once thought to be outside of the bounds of human comprehension, such as the existence of microscopic lifeforms causing disease, might have been described as paranormal, but the idea that the gods were magically inflicting ill humors on the sufferers is belief in the supernatural.

It is not inconceivable that what we presently call paranormal abilities may one day be understood, but supernatural entities that obey no natural laws but operate through their own caprice are another matter, despite the fact that the two terms are generally considered to be synonymous.

I know who you were.

People who believe that others have a duty to offer evidence in support of their opinions are probably narcissistic, don't you think? I mean, since those people don't think they have any obligation to offer any evidence for anything?

You're lying because you yourself are abusive and you clearly initiated it. Since your only motive here is to make personal attacks, I'll be reporting you every time you step out of line and that's regarding your replies to anyone, including this one.

Moderators, get rid of this troll please. Don't close the thread. That isn't solving anything.

Maybe that's why you've been so accommodating of my "chess is a forced win" opinion. I know there is some evidence, for and against, but it really doesn't matter. It's still my opinion.

Elroch has a topic that I stopped visiting because he blocked me for my opinion. It happened to be 100% factual and accurate because it was a personal experience of mine, but he didn't like it, and blocked me.

I understand wanting evidence if someone claims something that's worthy of evidence. But people who want evidence just because of an opinion, I have to wonder what's wrong with them.

I like Breyers chocolate chip mint ice cream. In my opinion it's the best ice cream there is. Unfortunately I have no evidence of that though.

You shouldn't come here deliberately to troll and attack other people who have been here a long time. That post is being reported too.

Anyone can see that you were abusive and even more so when I didn't give the evidence you demanded. I think I'm dealing with someone who has the mentality of a child. Reported.

A word of advice. This is, I think, the second time you've created an alt account to attack people with, in the space of three weeks.

Don't.

"I just don't think that inability to understand any position absolutely necessarily indicates the presence of random chance in the choice of moves. "

This is backwards.. Point is not whether the choice is random. Point is that the oucome will be random. More specifically, there will be unknown factors that affect the outcome, making it random.

If you have a random position on board and you have to make a move blindfolded, it's gonna be a random outcome because of lack of knowledge. If you are allowed to see half the board, you will be able to limit the choices and better your chances of a good choice, but still lack of knowledge leads to a random outcome. Just the odds are different.

See, the more knowledge = better odds. Does not mean nothing is up to chance. These practical examples apply to scenarios where lack of knowledge is due to misunderstanding of the position, rather than not physically seeing the board.

Yeah lol I'm "begging" for members. Watch people (@question-authority) say something stupid because they think the person insulted won't see it after mentioning unfollowing the thread. Nobody is talking-to-you, a few posts later the guy interjects himself (again) into other's personal argument by saying "I don't wanna interject...", ok then don't.

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Ok. Diogenes was never in my club so he's hardly an expert to say the discussion club ain't about discussion but about myself. That is silly, there's so many others there. Are you even capable of conducting an impersonal argument about ideas and issues? You don't discuss topics, you just attack people you know nothing about.

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Optimissed. Mate, you can't leave OD that is funny but there's no honest consistency why you're member of one club but can't be of another. But you say it wasn't the difference of opinion on Ukraine war that made you leave, but rather how it was presented. You even suggested that your free speech and ability to express yourself was censored somehow.

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I recall vividly presenting an argument for supporting Ukraine you disliked, you started at 11 by reacting extremely critically in a manner that was unwarranted. You seemed offended I even presented my argument, suddenly it wasn't about why the argument is bad but why my thinking is bad. If someone can't politely approach a topic to begin with, I can't help but be dismissive. I'm allowed to scrutinise any opinion, so I explained on the same level the issues in your argument. You felt you were marginalised, so you say... well you sure showed me by leaving then. You sure would show how bad Elroch is by leaving OD or requesting to be removed and being tyrannically denied. Right? Don't worry the join button ain't bugged if you're ever interested in reasoning impersonally and politely on actual issues.

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Good reasons why people leave or won't join, certain places have a clientele less tolerant of bs, as that of Diogenes.

I don't think luck is in chess, because the game is about strategy. They may be some cases of luck, say if you accidentally found a free piece, etc.

I'll unfollow the thread for real now. I'm a curious type but don't think I'm missing anything anyway. Diogenes, don't bother. Opt check your mail mate. Question authority dude, act a bit more mature if you don't wanna get banned for abuse, you're not impressing anyone here by attacking people in personal terms.

Post your link to your club again, then, or PM me, whichever. But I AM supposed to be busy doing other stuff and so I do limit my time. These days most of my time here is trying to sharpen up at blitz after not playing it for 20 years, when I used to play it for money.

Sent you a friend request yesterday, cheers.

Accepted it yesterday.

A personal discussion between myself and my friend Optimissed, even on a long since derailed public forum, is not begging for members and does not concern you. A good way to get somebody to reply who's too busy to check mail is by commenting in the same public space. Juvenile psychoanalyzing of strangers online is insulting and shows you are trolling. Why are you still talking to me stranger? This guy joined on two days ago... anyone lose a sock puppet?

"Begging" is also tendentious language, which shows you are slanted and partisan at hello. We have a motive. Has this guy not found anything to critique in Diogenes' posts that requires urgent layman's psychoanalytic speculation? Freshly minted sock puppets beware. Topic is luck in chess and I already commented there's both good luck and bad luck, as there is fortune and misfortune, got anything else to add?

I somehow guessed that was coming, why are you still here after saying you were gonna unfollow? Oh how juvenile! Maybe being endlessly abusive is a better standard for assesing immaturity.

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Why didn't I unfollow yet? As luck would have it, I was about to do just that, then, yet another hysterical interjection. It shows when people run out of stand up material, I mean what else is there but point out I'm still here? Yes, I noticed that too thanks for pointing it out. Sorry it bothers you that you're delayed in making a half-assed drive-by after I inevitably unfollow. Maybe you even feel that somehow you're the wronged party. You whine all over other's side discussion and then play the victim, as for your abusive attention seeking, I won't make note of that address from now on.

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I didn't ask him to join lol. Who says I didn't? Hop on over to your original account and run along now.

Sock puppets, oh like a child caught with their hand in the cookie jar. 😂🤣🤣

Elroch is like a clever monkey who knows tricks. Or a parrot maybe.

It was due to a conversation about the nature of infinity, which is a purely abstract, notional idea. Since it isn't real, all ideas about infinity consist of opinion backed up by logic. I gave an opinion which apparently countered a stock opinion of mathamaticians and was mocked somewhat in an effort to get me to give up my opinion. However, I pointed out that mathematicians notwithstanding, most philosophers would surely agree with me. Not that I always agree with most philosophers either but still..... Anyway, a number of people, not knowing any better, backed him up because they see him as the voice of authority. He didn't even try to argue against my opinion. I formed another opinion, at that time, that he isn't capable of independent thought. Clever but not intelligent at all. I feel justified in writing this, since they were pretty unpleasant about the entire thing.

Subsequently, Elroch blocked me for suggesting that a study should be done to find any correlation between an opinion on another matter regarding cosmology and the state of mind of people holding that opinion. It seemed perfectly reasonable to me, since I was suggesting a proper, scientific study. Anyway, he blocked me for that.

Shame about him really. I would say he had potential to be a good, useful human being but didn't accept that potential.

In4thelock 🔐

Oh it's all come clear. Now who is it that uses that phrase, "3rd time's a charm"? Not that I know what it means.