Just curious about rematches.

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Why opponents, when they won on time in losing position, decline a rematch and run away, but when they won by position they propose a rematch? Btw when I won on time (its rare, but sometimes it happens) they offer a rematch. Aren't that double standarts? Why I must to play rm when I won on time in losing position, but when they won on time inlosaing position and I offer a rm - they run away.
Is it only me so "lucky" or it is usual thing on chess.com?

Sred

There are no rules (written or unwritten) on the proposition or acceptance of rematches. If you feel like having a rematch, fine, if not, also. What did you expect?

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Well, I don't expect anything, I'm just curious.
I'd like to play rm when I won by time in losing position, because I think it's part of fair play, I know that there are no rules about fairness in chess. It just my point of view. But when I am the one who do fair it looks unfair to me and I don't feel like haviang a rematch. But this logic leads to become unfair player too, even if it's not forbidden by the rules.

And it's kind of strange, that when they won by position, they feel like having a rematch, but when they won by time - they don't. Looks like this is not about mood and more about afraid of losing and running away.

Sred
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because I think it's part of fair play, I know that there are no rules about fairness in chess.

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You are not alone, there are many players here who have strong opinions about fair play, including rematching behavior.

Other players, including myself, have no idea what rematching has to do with fairness. You play the board, not the player. This is not martial arts.

Please note that (very likely) it would never occur to the players rejecting your rematch proposal that you might feel offended or that they are behaving unfair. It's just that their notion of fairness is different.

LondonDungeon

@ConvertToRGB If you don't expect anything then why must we sit through another rant about rematches? If you don't like the Rules or Terms of Service of Chess.com feel free to contact the Chess.com Support staff or even go play somewhere else.

janiel-gamingYT

lol

LukasKasha

My two cents on this. I've been playing chess online since the 1990s, from Playsite to Pogo, etc. Problem with rematches here, imho, is how the boards are constructed. In other older sites, you would have a lobby where all the players are gathered and players would "create tables." Then people would come into those tables to play, you would accept them or not, but then you would play them as if OTB, i.e. a lot of rematches. And other players could join your table and watch the games in progress. It was a lot more "sociable" and players (and watchers) would comment. A lot more friends made that way. Here, on random boards, I hate to say it, but there's a big ego factor. If the game is over and you offer a rematch, win or lose, people feel bruised if their offer is rejected. So a lot of people won't offer. They'll wait to see if you offer. And you don't offer for the same reason, waiting to see if they offer. And so we both sit there, nobody leaving the room, as the clock ticks away. Likewise, some will play a rematch and then "leave on top" so to speak, i.e. when they're winning. My own philosophy is to wait after a match is over (win or lose). If my opponent wants a rematch, I usually play one, but usually not more than one. Simple reason is chess.com is not a very social place to play chess due to its set-up. That's not a complaint. It's set-up is actually very well designed to avoid a bruised ego. You play a game, you lose, you resign and immediately move on to the next game. Take the bullet to the chest (so to speak), move on to the next opponent. Knock your opponent's head off (so to speak), enjoy it for a millisecond before you move on to the next battle. In the older lobby websites I mentioned above (Pogo, etc) you would sometimes get into people cursing you or letting their clock run out. On the old Playsite.com, if your opponent disconnected, the site would stop the game for seven minutes to allow your opponent to reconnect. Which he would (at six minutes and 55 seconds) just to disconnect again. :-) What would be nice here on chess.com if you would have an option in the live games to refuse all rematches. You click the button and it's over. What would be awesome too if you had the ability to challenge an opponent at the start of the game to a "mini-tournament" i.e. you agree at the very start to play best 2 out of 3, or 4 out of 7, or whatever, at whatever time control. That would also take the ego out of the equation. Finally, my last thought about what would make this site really exceptionable if they created a "social lobby" i.e. where you could go and play a game of chess WITHOUT ratings. Just for the fun of it. Anybody ever play anonymously on chess24 or lichess? Sometimes it's nice just to play chess and interact with other players without this ratings system. JMTC

LukasKasha
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Why opponents, when they won on time in losing position, decline a rematch and run away, but when they won by position they propose a rematch? 

@ConvertToRGB

Anyone who's been on the internet for years knows that stuff happens outside your command. I've played thousands of games online. I remember once I was playing a losing position, all the way down to the end. My opponent was squeezing me like a python, but I kept trying to find a way to at least draw. Finally, at the very last move, when I was about to resign, the power was knocked out to my flat. I screamed in anger, because I knew my opponent would think I just disconnected like a sore loser, when that wasn't the case. True story.

Also, sometimes people ask for a rematch but I've been praying for the game to end because I DESPERATELY have to get to the bathroom, or dinner's burning on the stove.

All I'm saying is, everyone thinks the worst that they're being insulted, but in reality (sometimes) that's not the case.

ConvertToRGB
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It's just that their notion of fairness is different.

I don't argue. I just wanted to know is it casual thing here or not. Ty for reply.

MikeDoolzinski 
Where I sayed something about rules? I know that there is nothing written about rematches. I just curious is this type of action usual thing or not. Or it is usual for low rating players only and when ratin is >2000 things work different.
Btw if you use this logic and topics about rematches bother you then you can just ignore those topics and go somewhere else, how about that?
Or you just recognize yourself in my post and triggered?

 

Rubicon0367
I don’t know what time controls are being considered here as this conversation progresses. I am guessing the shorter the time control, the more likely folk would assume their opponent was intending to play more than one game.

I don’t play any more rapid than 30min per side game. Typically then, I am expecting a game to last an hour or less. As I have set aside an hour for the game I am also, therefore, only intending to play one game. Obviously, I would decline a re-match and I would not offer a re-match either.
Sred
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Sred wrote:

It's just that their notion of fairness is different.

I don't argue. I just wanted to know is it casual thing here or not. Ty for reply.

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I'm not playing here currently (and if I did I wouldn't notice how people rematch), but from the amount of complaints on the forums I'd guess that you should expect this kind of behavior. Just wanted to point out that most of your opponents would be totally flabbergasted if you called them unfair for not accepting a rematch.

AussieMatey

It's got nothing to do with fairness whether you, him, she, it or the cat on the roof offers a rematch wherever, whenever, or however, or just doesn't. happy.png

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LukasKasha
Thanks for reply! I like the idea about playing several games in a row.

Rubicon0367
Yep, it's about bullet and blitz games. If it's about rapid or standart I can understand why people decline rematches - because it takes a lot of time.

DoubIe_Dragon
MikeDoolzinski wrote:

@ConvertToRGB If you don't expect anything then why must we sit through another rant about rematches? If you don't like the Rules or Terms of Service of Chess.com feel free to contact the Chess.com Support staff or even go play somewhere else.

   So dumb to call the op a rant.  Trolls have killed these forums.

fernando110482

win or loss I never give or accept rematch, because it seems that there is no capacity of accepting loss. If I beat opponent or I am beaten immediate rematch shows to much rage or symply pathos which I don't like. what do you think

Ancares

There are thousands of players to play with, I will never understand why people get so obsessed with rematchs.

- Oh, I lost a game, I must get a rematch to get my honor back!!

Come on, grow up.