Kasparov on Women chess players

The actual biological differences are much smaller than what is shown in the distribution of women and men in various jobs. Men and women have an equal iq on average. So even if one sex was 5 percent genetically better at a particular activity then the ratio of women who would be equal to or better than men would be 45:50, which is very close.

The idea that girls aren't interested in male activities and it is their choice is a shallow way of approaching the situation. An example would be that typical toys for boys are building blocks, action figures, etc, but girls typically get Barbie dolls or other  "feminine" things. People's thoughts and worldview are largely shaped by their environment.

your the one who just called working in stem a male activity i know thats not what you meant but still

LOL, you have just been victimized by a non sequitur.   

Thanks for your patient endurance of such laughable tactics.  

I don't think STEM fields are meant for men, but they are overly populated by men in comparison to women.

yes but why do you assume thats because of sexism couldnt it possibly be because women are allowed to make their own life choices?

It might be partially because of sexism but the point I was making before was that it was also largely because of the environment in which they grow up that they don't have as much of an interest in those pursuits. Women on average aren't genetically predisposed to love cooking and shopping but hate numbers, it is just that women and men are taught to value different things and behave in different ways from childhood. That was the reason why I mentioned that Barbie dolls are marketed for girls whereas superhero toys are marketed for boys. My mother is a chemistry professor and she works with her college during the summer to do some community activities to try to work against typical gender roles and increase interest in the sciences among girls in elementary school.

i actually agree with you to some extent that men are raised differently from women but the idea that this is why they dont study things like math and science because of these differences is what i disagree witth. women can make their own choices and that is what they are doing

yes i guess if you say that you should be fired but thats not what the guy from google said and i woud love the proof from you that anyone has said that

I realize it is boring to read through all the posts, but I said there were small differences. I also said it did not correlate to the disparity in the distribution of the sexes in different occupations. I said that the average iq of males and females was the same. I said that if men had something like a visual memory iq that was on average 5% better than women for example then out of 100 women, you would expect 45 of them to have abilities that were better than or equal to 50 out of 100 men.

I didn't give any statistics. The only quantitative statement I was making based on data was that men and women are generally recognized to have similar overall scores on iq tests. If you want corroboration read the Wikipedia page and the studies which are referenced https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sex_differences_in_intelligence. My point with the visual iq was just to illustrate that even if there is a difference in a particular type of intelligence it could not account for the disparity in female and male occupations since the gap is so wide. If you want an actual number then this study https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/12/081217124430.htm had a spatial ability test where men scored higher. If you want to find a larger study with more participants then look it up yourself. The point was that there is no female super GM currently active in the chess world and regardless of what studies you look for you won't find a single reputable one which predicts that to be the case based solely on intelligence. The 2011 study by the United States Department of Commerce http://www.esa.doc.gov/Reports/women-stem-gender-gap-innovation found that women comprised less than 25% of the STEM workforce. This is also much lower than would be predicted by any intelligence testing.

Cancer is also Progressive.

Kasparov drew his conclusions in an era in which there was very little evidence that a woman could play chess at the highest levels.  That changed with Judit Polgar and is further evolving with Hou Yifan.  Despite what people may believe about the general populations of men and women and chess ability, the best players of either gender are anomalies and generalizations can't dictate how far and how high an anomaly will go.  As for generalizations themselves, they are often based on limited or biased data.  For centuries, most music experts believed that women couldn't play musical instruments as well as men...then in the 60s and 70s orchestras were compelled to hold blind auditions and suddenly women starting winning symphony seats in large numbers.

Oh yeah? How many women are rated in the Top 20? How many women in the Vienna Philharmonic?

I consider myself a progressive and I beat cancer (stage 4). Only little boys feel the need to pull girls' hair.

Interesting posts guys. Keep up the bad work. Just watch out for the feminists and beta cucks on this forum.

[That changed with Judit Polgar and is further evolving with Hou Yifan.]

Fischer's strength in 1992 rematch was around 2620-2650. This is an old, washed up Fischer after 20 years of absence. Hou Yifan's rating is 2670 (Just to add ratings are inflated). Kinda sad TBH.

Perhaps [Moderator removed sexist slur - AA]... Something nobody in the comment section envision... Lol

@20 I totally agree with this explanation. As a member of the female variety, I am fully aware of and in agreement with the fact that physically men are generally stronger than women. Obviously, if a woman exercises more than a man, the woman will be stronger, but -naturally- men are stronger. Now onto my next point, tf does that have to do with chess? It's all mental and logic based. Where's the proof that men are -naturally- smarter than women? Because I don't see any. In fact, in the younger years of males and females, females mature quicker and are more sensible. So how about I make a statement, that because females mature quicker than men, they are in result better at chess. It's an unfair argument because maturity doesn't play into better logic skills or being better at chess. Just like saying men are better than women is an unfair argument, because physical strength doesn't play into logic skills or being better at chess either. Everybody is entitled to their own opinion, and I respect the person being quoted may have their own thoughts and reasoning, but either way the point being made is objectively sexist and I do not agree.